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PostSubject: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:07 pm

Most likely fake but... in case it isn't, I'll put spoiler tags.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:18 pm

I have 100% belief this is fake. 4chan leaks are something to always be treated with much skepticism/scrutiny to begin with, and there's just aspects of this "leak" that don't make sense. Why would they use a submarine on a mission to relocate dinosaurs? Submarines aren't used for transporting cargo aside from how drug cartels use them, but those are drugs and not multi-ton animals. Also, the bit about the Indoraptor "getting revenge on its creators" is way too out there. I honestly wouldn't suggest anyone give this "leak" the time of day.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:20 pm

I really think this is fake.

The ending reads like some horrible combination of Jaws 4 and Alien vs Predator. Bayona wouldn't have signed on if this was the plan.

Edit: Chris Pugh says it's fake https://twitter.com/ChrisLikesDinos/status/940797461672669184

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:31 pm

It sounds fake but honestly it didn't sound too bad for me besides for the i-raptor.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:32 pm

Yeah, I read that earlier, but I wasn't sure if I could post it given the fallout from Neomorph's leak.

I do remember how Trevorrow said that the trailer contained parts from the first 57 minutes. Besides, unless Rexy killed off the Indoraptor first and then died, there is no way how Universal would be foolish enough to kill her off, and even then, that scenario is a stretch. Universal can NOT be that dumb.

However, given how Reddit and 4Chan leaks have been accurate in the past, I'd say that at least some of this is true. Just not the ending part.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:33 pm

Oh yeah, because 4chan has been right before. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:36 pm

"Mosasaur attacking the submarine" xD (Forgive me for not using spoiler tags, but I refuse to believe they're necessary for something this incredibly stupid)

So what, did it grow wings and fly out of the lagoon?

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:39 pm

@SmugTheFab wrote:
Oh yeah, because 4chan has been right before. Rolling Eyes

To be fair, they did get most of the DCEU pre-Wonder Woman right as did most of Spider Man homecoming. Some of this might be true, but just not the ending.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:42 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@SmugTheFab wrote:
Oh yeah, because 4chan has been right before. Rolling Eyes

To be fair, they did get most of the DCEU pre-Wonder Woman right as did most of Spider Man homecoming. Some of this might be true, but just not the ending.

But up until the batshit crazy ending, this basically reads as the plot as we already knew it, aside from the bit with the Mosasaur, which makes no sense.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:45 pm

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@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@SmugTheFab wrote:
Oh yeah, because 4chan has been right before. Rolling Eyes

To be fair, they did get most of the DCEU pre-Wonder Woman right as did most of Spider Man homecoming. Some of this might be true, but just not the ending.

But up until the batshit crazy ending, this basically reads as the plot as we already knew it, aside from the bit with the Mosasaur, which makes no sense.

That and given how J.A. Bayona had far more power then Trevorrow did, as you said, he would have never signed on/agreed to this.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:13 am

The thing that immediately makes this fake is the Submarine

Why would they travel to the island in a sub? And the Mosa is not in the ocean.

The movie does have a Submarine in it because someone who was cast talked about it and there’s a picture. Claire and Owen aren’t in that Sub though lol. Nobody travels like that to an island on a Dino rescue mission.

It’s completely obvious that they took that part and ran with it to make a story up out of thin air.

Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:19 am

@Troyal1 wrote:
The thing that immediately makes this fake is the Submarine

Why would they travel to the island in a sub? And the Mosa is not in the ocean.

The movie does have a Submarine in it because someone who was cast talked about it and there’s a picture. Claire and Owen aren’t in that Sub though lol. Nobody travels like that to an island on a Dino rescue mission.  

It’s completely obvious that they took that part and ran with it to make a story up out of thin air.

Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)

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Agreed 100%, the sub scene is the opening scene of the film & is a prologue according to Neomorph! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:39 am

@dance2nite wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
The thing that immediately makes this fake is the Submarine

Why would they travel to the island in a sub? And the Mosa is not in the ocean.

The movie does have a Submarine in it because someone who was cast talked about it and there’s a picture. Claire and Owen aren’t in that Sub though lol. Nobody travels like that to an island on a Dino rescue mission.  

It’s completely obvious that they took that part and ran with it to make a story up out of thin air.

Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)


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Agreed 100%, the sub scene is the opening scene of the film & is a prologue according to Neomorph! Wink

Yep! Also someone just pointed out the trailer literally shows them traveling to the island in an airplane lol.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:33 am

Question is do we consider it a leak and remove it from the site ASAP.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:36 am

@TRK wrote:
Question is do we consider it a leak and remove it from the site ASAP.
You can consider it a horrible lie and a waste of everyone's time, and then remove it from the site.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:27 am

Even though Trevorrow has often used the word "insane" to describe his ideas for JW: Fallen Kingdom (and based on the reactions to the first half of the movie as shown in the mainstream trailer, that seems in keeping with the presence of an erupting volcano on Isla Nublar), but the ideas here are not just drastic they're borderline franchise suicide:

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I expect there to be dinosaur casualties, and maybe a few species getting permanently axed off in the process, with no emotional punches pulled from the director of such films as The Orphanage and A Monster Calls. But the events described in the second half go completely off the rails and seems poised to alienate not just die hard fans but possibly the audience at large, and is very unlike what Bayona would surely want to have his name attached to.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:32 pm

I seriously doubt they will kill the T Rex. Considering how much backlash JP3 got for doing it I don't see why they would try that again.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:48 pm

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Even though Trevorrow has often used the word "insane" to describe his ideas for JW: Fallen Kingdom (and based on the reactions to the first half of the movie as shown in the mainstream trailer, that seems in keeping with the presence of an erupting volcano on Isla Nublar), but the ideas here are not just drastic they're borderline franchise suicide:

4Chan discussion:
 

I expect there to be dinosaur casualties, and maybe a few species getting permanently axed off in the process, with no emotional punches pulled from the director of such films as The Orphanage and A Monster Calls. But the events described in the second half go completely off the rails and seems poised to alienate not just die hard fans but possibly the audience at large, and is very unlike what Bayona would surely want to have his name attached to.

It would be one thing if Rexy had a Logan style ending, with a biological son/daughter filling her place if she got a new home, preferably Sorna or one of the other fairly larger islands. (Have her kill off the JP3 Spino but have her sustain mortal wounds and then have her child and husband/mate see her off and then a few years later, her kid is full grown and the monarch of Sorna.) But not like this.

Also, I'm not against dinosaurs running amok in the wild, but I think it would have made far more sense if it was 'normal' dinosaurs and if the big breakout took place in Florida or some Louisiana bayou-more likely Florida since it has a lot of invasive species so might as well throw in dinosaurs-since the environment and weather are not really much different then that of Sorna.

As cynical and critical as I have been of Universal's handling of the franchise post-TLW, even I refuse to believe that they can be this dumb.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:47 pm

Well we know this is fake because there is no mention of the auction at Lockwood Manor. I mean don't the cast lists all but confirm that's what is taking place at the mansion in Act 3?
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:47 pm

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Well we know this is fake because there is no mention of the auction at Lockwood Manor. I mean don't the cast lists all but confirm that's what is taking place at the mansion in Act 3?

Another great spot proving this is BS. Nice one.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:16 pm

yeah my bad, I posted it without thinking. Guess another BS thing posted by some guy who wanted fame.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:50 am

We're probably going to see type of thing happen a few times before the films release.

If anybody has any particularly juicy spoilers from hereon on, it would probably be a good idea to clear it with an admin/staff member before posting it.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:54 am

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Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)

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That would not make sense (I do not say it is fake) Ingen mercenaries took all the embryos of Wu's secret laboratory, plus Wu also carries a briefcase with possibly more embryos,
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:32 am

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@Troyal1 wrote:
Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)

Spoiler:
 


That would not make sense (I do not say it is fake) Ingen mercenaries took all the embryos of Wu's secret laboratory, plus Wu also carries a briefcase with possibly more embryos,
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I imagine they will explain the reason in the film. It wouldn't be hard to write your way out of that supposed leap in logic.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:45 am

This doesnt make mention of Daniella Pineda's character or Lockwoods Manor. Plus I dont buy Bayona agreeing to such a cheesy, B-movie ending like that.

Perhaps some aspects of the story are true, but I'm calling bullshit.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:22 pm

@NolaJP wrote:
@CommanderKeller wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
Besides there is quite a bit of evidence of what I believe is a real plot point (Massive spoilers)

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That would not make sense (I do not say it is fake) Ingen mercenaries took all the embryos of Wu's secret laboratory, plus Wu also carries a briefcase with possibly more embryos,
Spoiler:
 

I imagine they will explain the reason in the film.  It wouldn't be hard to write your way out of that supposed leap in logic.

Not only that, but wouldn't Wu already have I. rex DNA in his lab anyway? And even if he didn't, the hunk of flesh that I. rex tore out in order to remove the tracking device would have served as a great Plan B.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:50 pm

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I just needed to read that. I want that to be true, NOW.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:00 pm

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"Mosasaur attacking the submarine" xD (Forgive me for not using spoiler tags, but I refuse to believe they're necessary for something this incredibly stupid)

So what, did it grow wings and fly out of the lagoon?

I'm sorry but sources say that this scene will happen. And I think it's true.

Oh boy, I hope this leak is true, or at least part of it. My only doubt is T.rex getting killed, that would be done with balls of steel.

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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:26 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
"Mosasaur attacking the submarine" xD (Forgive me for not using spoiler tags, but I refuse to believe they're necessary for something this incredibly stupid)

So what, did it grow wings and fly out of the lagoon?

I'm sorry but sources say that this scene will happen. And I think it's true.

Oh boy, I hope this leak is true, or at least part of it. My only doubt is T.rex getting killed, that would be done with balls of steel.

I think he's referring to the idea of the mosasaur being in the ocean, hence the "did it grow wings" line. Also there is a submarine in the film, but it's the kind that seats 2 people.

Most here seem to be aware of the submarine scene in the lagoon with the helicopter.
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PostSubject: Re: 4chan supposed plot leak (possible heavy spoilers)   Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:05 pm

Oh, got it, my bad guys! Razz

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