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PostSubject: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:52 pm

Someone who has read the new book Evolution of Claire, can you tell me if the book is told what happened to Sorna and what is its status?
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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:03 pm

Sorry this is so late, and you've probably either read the book already or Googled it, but in the book Sorna is still active and doing OK. Claire actually asks Masrani about the island and he says there are "enough" dinosaurs, implying the population has declined but it's still viable. That's about all we are told about Sorna in the entire book as far as its status goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:48 am

Am currently reading this book... Does it conflict with the DPG website descriptions? As well I notice very much that Claire is made out to be far more virtuous and animal-conscious than she was in the film.
My insight up to this point is that the book represents a timeline amalgum only partially in-line with the two current Jurassic World films.

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:41 pm

From what I can remember, the book does a good job of keeping things consistent with the current franchise, apart from some age discrepancies with Claire's family. Bryce Dallas Howard and Colin Trevorrow consulted on the book, so it should be pretty accurate, and Trevorrow confirmed it was movie canon.
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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:00 pm

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From what I can remember, the book does a good job of keeping things consistent with the current franchise, apart from some age discrepancies with Claire's family. Bryce Dallas Howard and Colin Trevorrow consulted on the book, so it should be pretty accurate, and Trevorrow confirmed it was movie canon.

Not really an age discrepancy so much as that Karen's boyfriend/significant other is named "Pete" in the Evolution of Claire and is supposedly Zach's biological dad. Scott Mitchell was the name of the character in JW though.

http://jurassic-pedia.com/scott-mitchell/

I've wondered if maybe that perceived oversight is an indicator that Scott and Karen got together later and Scott adopted Zach going so far as changing his surname, Pete is a middle name or name of preference for the character at the time, or he was someone that came along because Scott and Karen were having issues and then eventually broke it off with Karen because Scott came back into the situation. This is probably something to ask on Twitter for interested parties.

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:09 am

How weird. I still believe, from long-term experience, that directors are willing to give up continuiting with anything beyond the actual films when making new content, and sometimes even film content. Despite the book being called film canon. Directors don't seem to like to be chained to extensions of films that tie their hands when it comes to creativity.

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:41 am

That is true and also why things like JPTG went from being canonical to merely just being soft canon where elements are picked and chosen by the current creative team. For now... the Evolution of Claire is considered canonical by the powers that be and we need to answer the questions I mentioned or at least accept the lack of answer in any event if they don't answer the questions.

Operationally with external media to the film it's often a case of "If it is said it fits, it fits until it doesn't."

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:46 pm

The age discrepancy I was referring to was with Claire being 19 years old in 2004 and Gray not even being born, but with JW taking place in 2015, Zach would need to be somewhat nearing pre-teen age (to be "high school age" in 2015) and Gray would have to have been at least born. So it's a little messed up.

But I agree overall that something is canon until it's not anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:50 am

@Megatronus Rex wrote:
The age discrepancy I was referring to was with Claire being 19 years old in 2004 and Gray not even being born, but with JW taking place in 2015, Zach would need to be somewhat nearing pre-teen age (to be "high school age" in 2015) and Gray would have to have been at least born. So it's a little messed up.

But I agree overall that something is canon until it's not anymore.

Oh okay. Thanks for explaining that! It was somewhat flying over my head a bit there for some odd reason. Heh.

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:20 am

Yeah. The book is its own little happy-virtuous Claire timeline, from all evidence in my eyes.. It speaks more to who she became AFTER JW, not before.

...In a multi-temporal, multi-dimensionali context, I view these all as separate timelines anyway, which will of course contradict each other. If we can accept that they are alternate within a cohesive Jurassic reality, we can have fun with it that way. How few people I suspect will ever reach this dimension of nerdism (except in those cases like Rick & Morty where it's more obviously projected into the thematic content).

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:17 pm

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Yeah. The book is its own little happy-virtuous Claire timeline, from all evidence in my eyes.. It speaks more to who she became AFTER JW, not before.

...In a multi-temporal, multi-dimensionali context, I view these all as separate timelines anyway, which will of course contradict each other. If we can accept that they are alternate within a cohesive Jurassic reality, we can have fun with it that way. How few people I suspect will ever reach this dimension of nerdism (except in those cases like Rick & Morty where it's more obviously projected into the thematic content).

Numerous Transformers media function on that principle as well. Things like Beast Wars cartoon (Primax 496.22 Alpha) and the Generation One cartoon (Primax 984.17 Alpha) take place in different "universal streams" in the G1 continuity. Information about that, if interested, can be found here. Within those different and varied universes though there's some cross over here and there and commonalities here and there. but ultimately it's nestled in there like you're suggesting.

That said, it could be possible and work for JP entirely as there's cases where it is a logical assumption to make. JP functions on a similar sort of setup given there's so many different variations of the same story in existence like the Transformers series.

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PostSubject: Re: Information on The Evolution of Claire   Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:40 am

TJ, good to see your perspective on it! And damn it gets me motivated... I have long-term plans to organize all the Jurassic timelines into a consistent temporal system. Hopefully I can get something going in the next couple months - have to finish my research into the dimensions of the early script drafts of the films (which are their own timelines, plus possible connections/fluxes).

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