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PostSubject: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:24 pm

The name says it all.

Here's an interesting video about the end of Kelvin Trek and where Star Trek goes from here.


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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:05 pm

Supposedly Tarantino had an "idea" for an r-rated Star Trek movie, but somehow I don't think that'll ever happen...the last thing Paramount wants at this point is a film with less mainstream appeal.

I think Trek is going to stick with the CBS All Access series at this point...I'm interested in what they do with Picard, but I have up on "Discovery" part-way through season 1.
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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:56 pm

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Supposedly Tarantino had an "idea" for an r-rated Star Trek movie, but somehow I don't think that'll ever happen...the last thing Paramount wants at this point is a film with less mainstream appeal.

At this point, the lack of money is a much larger issue then that.

Kurtzman wants Star Trek to appeal to more children.

I'm not entirely against this, but just not under Kurtzman's watch.


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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:40 pm

That's what I meant...R-rated means less box office, most probably, compared to a lower rating.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:33 pm

It's difficult for me to see Trek going on in a significant way on the big screen. I'm interested to see what happens with Picard's show, but like Robotpo I also gave up on Discovery part ways through season 1. It's just so damn cold, way too linear for a Star Trek series, way too fast paced, the characters are unlikable and all seem to hate each other, the "political commentary" lacks any subtlety, and if you miss just one episode you'll have no clue what's going on by the time the next episode starts. I tried with it, too. I really did.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:56 pm

Last night, I finally saw The Wrath Of Khan.

WOW! One of the best movies I've ever seen.

The acting is great and the sets, SPX, and action scenes are tense. Ricardo Montalban really steals the show as Khan whenever you see him. At times, I really thought that he would succeed in destroying the Enterprise.

Even though he failed to kill Kirk, in a way his actions resulting in Spock's death did hurt Kirk in way he never had been hurt before, so in some ways, Khan got a fair amount of revenge. That said, the film does end in fairly upbeat way, that Spock's death was not in vain and even in death, new life gets born.

The only small downside is that I wish a bit more time talking if Project Genesis had happened, but the movie is more then good enough for me to overlook that.


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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:59 pm

One of the greatest sci-fi films ever made, and probably the most well acted film of Willam Shatner's career.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:09 pm

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One of the greatest sci-fi films ever made, and probably the most well acted film of Willam Shatner's career.

Indeed. Shater's famous KHAAANNN! alone is worth it, but him reacting to Spock dying/death is really touching, as is the ending where he starts to make up with his son.

I plan to get more ST movies. Thanks for all the tips. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:23 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
Indeed. Shater's famous KHAAANNN! alone is worth it, but him reacting to Spock dying/death is really touching, as is the ending where he starts to make up with his son.

I plan to get more ST movies. Thanks for all the tips. Very Happy

The infamous "KHAAAAAAAN!!" is great, no doubt, but it was Kirk's eulogy that really sealed the deal for me. In particular how Shatner's voice cracked as he was delivering it.

And yeah, no problem. I'm always happy to help introduce people the the awesomeness that is Trek.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:32 pm

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@Rhedosaurus wrote:
Indeed. Shater's famous KHAAANNN! alone is worth it, but him reacting to Spock dying/death is really touching, as is the ending where he starts to make up with his son.

I plan to get more ST movies. Thanks for all the tips. Very Happy

The infamous "KHAAAAAAAN!!" is great, no doubt, but it was Kirk's eulogy that really sealed the deal for me. In particular how Shatner's voice cracked as he was delivering it.

And yeah, no problem. I'm always happy to help introduce people the the awesomeness that is Trek.

Indeed, I basically tried Trek after an...ugly period in my personal life. It was the one TOS episode with Apollo. I was interested and thought "Hmm. This is interesting." Then I saw an episode of TNG and enjoyed it. I saw my first episode of DS9 in December. While I don't see it as much as I'd like, I watch it as much as I can.

I just wish that it had a movie like TOS and TNG did.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:14 pm

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Indeed, I basically tried Trek after an...ugly period in my personal life. It was the one TOS episode with Apollo. I was interested and thought "Hmm. This is interesting." Then I saw an episode of TNG and enjoyed it. I saw my first episode of DS9 in December. While I don't see it as much as I'd like, I watch it as much as I can.

I just wish that it had a movie like TOS and TNG did.

A DS9 film could be cool, but at the same time I kinda think it would be doing a bit of a disservice to the show. TOS and TNG were similar in that their stories were mostly encapsulated into singular episodes, or at the very most a multi-episode arc in the case of TNG. DS9, by contrast, had a far more linear form of storytelling that stretched out over several seasons. If there were to have been a DS9 film, it would have likely involved the Dominion in some way, as that was the major arc of DS9, but to have the entire story compressed into a single film may have made it feel kind of rushed when compared with the long, drawn out Dominion storyline from the show. I just don't think it would stack up to the show overly well, as it wouldn't have felt nearly as big or fleshed out in comparison.

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PostSubject: Re: Klingons and Vulcans and Starships. Oh my! The Star Trek thread.   Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:34 pm

^^ The problem with a DS9 movie is that it would take so much time/effort to undo the ending of the series, and agreed, it would be a disservice to the series finale which very much left us on a melancholic note, while suggesting that the story would go on.

Rhed, if you want more Project Genesis, have you watched "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock"? A lot of the film takes place...well, I won't spoil it, but it's very much a sequel to Khan. It's not nearly as good as the second film, but it's underrated IMO. Star Trek 2, 3 and 4 make up a kind of Kirk & Spock trilogy.
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