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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:43 pm

@dance2nite wrote:
@Robotpo wrote:
I was wondering something about the carnivore count...in the previous film, Gray says there are 6 species in the park. Yet after FK, we have:

T-Rex
Allosaurus
Carnotaurus
Baryonyx
Dilophosaurus
Mosasaurus
Compies
Raptors (not actually on display)
Pteranodon & Dimorphodon (technically piscivores, but they attack other animals)

So that's 7-10, depending on how you take Gray's statement. Do we just assume Gray was incorrect?

Also, I'd have to check, but wasn't the lagoon quite land-locked in JW?

There is a Dilo in FK? Shocked

EDIT: Forgot this isn't the spoiler thread lol
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:01 pm

@dance2nite wrote:
@Robotpo wrote:
I was wondering something about the carnivore count...in the previous film, Gray says there are 6 species in the park. Yet after FK, we have:

T-Rex
Allosaurus
Carnotaurus
Baryonyx
Dilophosaurus
Mosasaurus
Compies
Raptors (not actually on display)
Pteranodon & Dimorphodon (technically piscivores, but they attack other animals)

So that's 7-10, depending on how you take Gray's statement. Do we just assume Gray was incorrect?

Also, I'd have to check, but wasn't the lagoon quite land-locked in JW?

There is a Dilo in FK? Shocked

There was a hologram of one in JW...hence it was around somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:19 am

@Robotpo wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Robotpo wrote:
I was wondering something about the carnivore count...in the previous film, Gray says there are 6 species in the park. Yet after FK, we have:

T-Rex
Allosaurus
Carnotaurus
Baryonyx
Dilophosaurus
Mosasaurus
Compies
Raptors (not actually on display)
Pteranodon & Dimorphodon (technically piscivores, but they attack other animals)

So that's 7-10, depending on how you take Gray's statement. Do we just assume Gray was incorrect?

Also, I'd have to check, but wasn't the lagoon quite land-locked in JW?

There is a Dilo in FK? Shocked

There was a hologram of one in JW...hence it was around somewhere.

Oh Damn, got all excited there may have been in the flesh in FK after all... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:21 am

Off topic but I was watching the Rexy vs Indominus fight on YouTube and when I paused it I found a crewman in the background!

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:26 am

@Dilophosaurus wrote:
Off topic but I was watching the Rexy vs Indominus fight on YouTube and when I paused it I found a crewman in the background!


Shocked Good find, maybe it's just a casual park goer taking an evening stroll... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:28 am

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Off topic but I was watching the Rexy vs Indominus fight on YouTube and when I paused it I found a crewman in the background!

isnt that a manikin? for like clothes haha. the Cgi on the i-rex looks amazing here
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:21 am

Yeah that cgi is great
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:45 pm

There are a bunch of new interviews with cast & crew here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/FlicksMovieTrailers/videos
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:48 am

the movie is now rotten on rotten tomatoes...i'm actually kinda mad.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:24 am

Why are you letting critic reviews affect you? we live in a a day and age where critic opinion deflowers personal opinion so much. Let us not forget that TLW is rotten on RT. Definitely not a terrible movie bye anymeans..

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:26 am

We live in times where anybody can be a critic Wink

Ps. Anyone noticed another viral website, but this time from people that want dino extinction?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:08 am

Watched Fallen Kingdom two times and really can't understand the RT score.

Hope the film will be a huge success at the box office, just to show how useless RT is.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:40 am

I find it not fair to have US critics be able to rate the movie on June the 6th and US Vievers on June the 22nd.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:51 am

It matters to me because people are stupid enough to let critics form their opinions for them. Garbage movies like Deadpool get 82% while Fallen Kingdom is considered rotten? WTF. Especially when Fallen Kingdom is better than JW in like every possible way. Unreal.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:54 am

It's not the most surprising thing in the world. It's not exactly a new thing for critics, fans, and the general audience to have opposing opinions on a movie.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:04 am

Probably best to not give the RT score too much attention. It was pretty obvious right from the get-go that a lot of critics weren't going to give this thing a chance.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:08 am

Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:12 am

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Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:22 am

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie.
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You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:35 am

Please keep spoilers in the designated threads or wrap them in spoiler tags until the 22nd. Even minor ones.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:41 am

@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Those things you mentioned a ridiculous ways to say that you do not like a movie. Fine that you did not like it, its subjective. But to use that as an argument to why the movie received quite some critique is just bad. Its a summer blockbuster for crying out loud, not a documentary.

Pfffff, Imdb rating, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies. Great website to get a general idea if a movie has potential but thats about it.


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:50 am

@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:52 am

@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I'd say it's even better in a lot of ways.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:55 am

@Bionic wrote:
@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.

Comparing it to Transformers is insane. They are completely different in quality.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:57 am

@Bionic wrote:
@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.

Then you will have problems with a lot of movies. Uhm you should put off your nostalgia goggles, the first movie was not all that special if you take away that it was the first movie with such great effects. Besides, even without comparing, JWFK has a fine script. Can't actually believe you call it terrible.... Did we watch the same movie?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:05 pm

@Amadieus wrote:
Those things you mentioned a ridiculous ways to say that you do not like a movie. Fine that you did not like it, its subjective. But to use that as an argument to why the movie received quite some critique is just bad. Its a summer blockbuster for crying out loud, not a documentary.  

Pfffff, Imdb rating, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies. Great website to get a general idea if a movie has potential but thats about it.

To be fair, details that we may find trivial as fans may hit others in different ways. For example, how nonsensical the Rex escape at the end of TLW is. If you're a stickler for details, how the ending of TLW played out makes literally no sense, and critics would most certainly see that (hence the low RT score), but us, as fans, would be more likely to look past it.

Long and short of it is some people watch movies looking for faults, and will rate a movie based on how many of these faults they find, not allowing themselves to be swept up in the picture. We, as fans, are less likely to look for these faults when we watch as film, as we want the movie to be good and want to get swept up in it and enjoy the experience.

Personally, I prefer the latter approach, but to to each their own. At the end of the day, there's no "wrong way" to watch a movie.

At the end of the day, you should never feel guilty or ashamed of getting enjoyment out of something that someone else doesn't. If anything, feel pity for more critical viewer.


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:10 pm

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdo-bryce-dallas-howard-heels-1201973386/

By the way, check out this article. Absolute nonsense. SPOILERS in the article btw!
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:13 pm

@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.

Then you will have problems with a lot of movies. Uhm you should put off your nostalgia goggles, the first movie was not all that special if you take away that it was the first movie with such great effects. Besides, even without comparing, JWFK has a fine script. Can't actually believe you call it terrible.... Did we watch the same movie?

You don't need to be a genius to see that the script has glaring flaws, apparently you have very low standards of you think that this is a fine script. I mean
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:15 pm

@Bionic wrote:
@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie. Blue basically has superpowers, I mean the bloodtransfusion from another species is really nonsense and she recovered pretty quickly from the gunshot.

And Owen does not suffocate in an ashcloud and has zero injuries from jumping off a huge cliff.

You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.

Then you will have problems with a lot of movies. Uhm you should put off your nostalgia goggles, the first movie was not all that special if you take away that it was the first movie with such great effects. Besides, even without comparing, JWFK has a fine script. Can't actually believe you call it terrible.... Did we watch the same movie?

You don't need to be a genius to see that the script has glaring flaws, apparently you have very low standards of you think that this is a fine script. I mean
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This is the kind of thing I was talking about. People using critics as a way of justifying whether or not someone has low standards and then judging them for liking something they don't.

Also, by side characters, I assume you mean Franklin and Zia, in which case, they absolutely weren't useless. one of the things this film improved on from Jurassic world was giving it's characters a purpose in the story.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.5   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:22 pm

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@Amadieus wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
Are you really that surprised? It's simply not a very good film (unlike TLW). Sorry but that's how I see it.

I see some fans hate it but most that are watching it give solids reviews and loved it so...The problem is the critics, yeah. JW FK is not a bad movie, has some flaws yeah, but overall it's good IMO.

Critics only suck balls of Super Hero movies. I've been saying that for a while.


Maybe next time let's make Blue and Owen with super powers maybe the critics will be better.

That's actually one of the problems that I have with the movie.
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You're making excuses, the problem isn't the critics but rather the ridiculous screenplay. It only seems like the hardcore fans love it. The IMDB score is also dropping so it's not just the critics.

Lol you let such things influence for if you like a movie?

It's a summer blockbuster... Who cares about such trivial details. Imdb rating lol, the top 200 is full with mediocre movies

Well the laws of physics are still valid aren't they? And when things become too outlandish and nonsensical then yes it takes you out of the movie. It being a summer blockbuster is a very bad argument considering that the original was also a blockbuster but didn't have such a terrible script. The level of the Transformers sequels is pretty close with this new entry.

Comparing it to Transformers is insane. They are completely different in quality.

Not really.
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