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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:34 pm

Is Sorna mentioned by name or just "the other island"?

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:05 pm

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Is Sorna mentioned by name or just "the other island"?

Yeah Sorna is mentioned by name.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:15 pm

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Also I was surprised that Wu survived. They must have plans for him in JW3, wonder what they could be now that hybrids are off the cards...

I think it would be kinda interesting if he tried to make a more scientifically accurate dinosaur now that he isn't supervised by people who want an animal that could be used as entertainment or a weapon. Could be a good way to introduce feathered dinosaurs without messing with the continuity.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:16 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
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Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:12 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:47 pm

@TheDreamMaster wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnoughtus

The largest land animal that ever lived. basically a fucking huge sauropod.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:50 pm

@TheDreamMaster wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

They probably meant Dreadnoughtus, which is a titanosaurian sauropod. 85 feet long in total length. Head and neck was 40 feet, torso and hip length was 17 feet, and the tail was 29 feet. Shoulder height was 20 feet. Total mass was about 42.1 short tons.

Basically one of the largest terrestrial vertebrates that ever lived.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:14 pm

The idea of seeing the massive Apatosaurs being dwarfed by possibly the largest land animal to ever lived whilst roaming across the vast mainland landscapes would be pretty spectacular.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:30 pm

@1morey wrote:
@TheDreamMaster wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

They probably meant Dreadnoughtus, which is a titanosaurian sauropod. 85 feet long in total length. Head and neck was 40 feet, torso and hip length was 17 feet, and the tail was 29 feet. Shoulder height was 20 feet. Total mass was about 42.1 short tons.

Basically one of the largest terrestrial vertebrates that ever lived.

Wu has a good taste for dinosaurs, you guys can't deny that. Cool


By the way, I just watched the scene where
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LMAO I'm laughing my ass off, I just can't. Laughing

From what I saw from Wu, I like it already, just too bad he didn't have much screentime AGAIN (looking at you Colin).

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm

@1morey wrote:
@TheDreamMaster wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

They probably meant Dreadnoughtus, which is a titanosaurian sauropod. 85 feet long in total length. Head and neck was 40 feet, torso and hip length was 17 feet, and the tail was 29 feet. Shoulder height was 20 feet. Total mass was about 42.1 short tons.

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@TheDreamMaster wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Cbaitson wrote:
Wu gets tranquilised by Franklin and then a merc just kinda picks him up and drags him off.

I'm so glad he did this. Otherwise I think Blue would have eat him up.


Does it show him escaping with the embryos??

Yes. wu escapes with a case of Embryos and a baryonx. Also Dreadnaughtus is one of the embryos.

What the hell is Dreadnaughtus?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnoughtus

The largest land animal that ever lived. basically a fucking huge sauropod.

Many other titanosaurs are larger. Most say that Alamosaurus, a titanosaur that live in North America the exact same time as T. rex, and in many of Rexes hunting ground was between 93-98 ft long and at least 90 tons. (And it was hunted by Rex as well.)

Some of the other South American titanosaurs were just as large as Alamosaurus, but others were far larger.

To be honest. Considering how the one sauropod skeleton in Jurassic Park was that of an Alamosaurus (it would have to be ret-conned as a juvenile now), I find it a bit of a shame that we never saw a living one and that we might not.

Basically one of the largest terrestrial vertebrates that ever lived.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:57 am

Does anyone else think Hoskins was calling Mills in that one scene in JW?
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:31 am

@V.a.nublarensis wrote:
Does anyone else think Hoskins was calling Mills in that one scene in JW?


It's actually my headcanon already. Mills was behind Hoskins and InGen.

By the way, hope they show who Wu worked for since Hammond in JW3.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:43 am

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
Let's hope and pray Universal changes their "We have to avoid anything and everything TLW" mindset and we get either Nick Van Owen or Sarah Harding Back.

John Hammond's closing sentence from TLW is quoted word for word by Lockwood.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:18 pm

So the DNA the mercenaries get are not hybrid DNA?

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:37 pm

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So the DNA the mercenaries get are not hybrid DNA?

No. But I still didn't understand why Wu can't make more hybrids, to be honest. He'll start from 0, sure, but he can still create more hybrids. It demands time so I think JW3 will happen before Wu get's to make another hybrid.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:55 pm

Or Wu is killed off in JW3 but hybrids could be made by other people after JW3 unless Owen and Claire ruin their plans again.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:17 pm

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Or Wu is killed off in JW3 but hybrids could be made by other people after JW3 unless Owen and Claire ruin their plans again.

That or he'll be in federal prison. Hard to make hybrids behind bars.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:21 pm

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Or Wu is killed off in JW3 but hybrids could be made by other people after JW3 unless Owen and Claire ruin their plans again.

That or he'll be in federal prison. Hard to make hybrids behind bars.

Rather him not get killed so I would buy that.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:38 pm

On Wikipedia it says that Blue escaped to the Grand Canyon. I thought it was just a random bit of desert overlooking the town next to Lockwood Manor. Or was it actually the Grand Canyon.?

Also it says that genetic samples are recovered by mercenaries from Lockwood Manor, but I can't remember that at all, unless it was a very brief shot in the ending montage?
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:57 pm

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On Wikipedia it says that Blue escaped to the Grand Canyon. I thought it was just a random bit of desert overlooking the town next to Lockwood Manor. Or was it actually the Grand Canyon.?

Also it says that genetic samples are recovered by mercenaries from Lockwood Manor, but I can't remember that at all, unless it was a very brief shot in the ending montage?

Like I said, Wu is shown at the end with a briefcase of embryos.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:36 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
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On Wikipedia it says that Blue escaped to the Grand Canyon. I thought it was just a random bit of desert overlooking the town next to Lockwood Manor. Or was it actually the Grand Canyon.?

Also it says that genetic samples are recovered by mercenaries from Lockwood Manor, but I can't remember that at all, unless it was a very brief shot in the ending montage?

Like I said, Wu is shown at the end with a briefcase of embryos.

Also Wu rushes everyone to take the stuff out of the lab too.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:22 pm

Just seen the film, twas some good shit indeed. The star performances were Zia and Maisie most certainly; Lockwood was likeable and had a great deal of Hammond in him; special effects were superlative, as was the cinematography; T. rex got its roar back Smile; relationship between Owen and Blue very well executed.

And yes, I choked up at, that, bit.

So overall, really loved it, bar a scant few dumb moments. I'll tell you the things I didn't like, since I pretty much loved everything else:

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:37 pm

The Indoraptor

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:57 pm

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The Indoraptor

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was also a bit much

I enjoyed it to be honest !

Concerning Wu, I still hope he'll die in JW3 killed by a Velociraptor like he was in the book.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:09 pm

Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:27 pm

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Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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Please no. Not Blue. She's not even close to worth ending Wu's life. Either other raptor or another creation that has the same symbolism of "creation vs creator".


I hope there are other raptors in JW3. I want a TBO type raptor to kill him, not a pet project. Sorry I just don't like Blue, that's all.  Laughing  I think I'll never like her to be honest. But I admit her relationship with Owen had more explanation in this (loved the video Maisie is watching, shows why Blue's unique and some interesting traits).

But as a huge fan of the novels too, I really want Wu's death to be 100% like in the book. With no offscreen bullshit or PG 13. I want the gory death he get's in the book. I think all fans want his death to be like that. Even BD Wong wants it to be like in the book.

And he has every right to claim Blue's as his creation, love when he turns to Zia and says "I designed this animal myself.". He created them, and I think it's awesome to have the movie adress it more, like "this scientist you all pay no attention to is the one who keeps moving things". Considering Zia just
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I really doubt Wu will take an interest in Blue, but we'll see.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:38 pm

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@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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Please no. Not Blue. She's not even close to worth ending Wu's life. Either other raptor or another creation that has the same symbolism of "creation vs creator".


I hope there are other raptors in JW3. I want a TBO type raptor to kill him, not a pet project. Sorry I just don't like Blue, that's all.  Laughing

But as a huge fan of the novels too, I really want Wu's death to be 100% like in the book. With no offscreen bullshit or PG 13. I want the gory death he get's in the book. I think all fans want his death to be like that. Even BD Wong wants it to be like in the book.

And he has every right to claim Blue's as his creation, love when he turns to Zia and says "I designed this animal myself.". He created them, and I think it's awesome to have the movie adress it more, like "this scientist you all pay no attention to is the one who keeps moving things".


You know what would be funny? If Wu had an epiphany about how he was partially responsible for much of all this, starts doing a speech about how he will try and fix it since he's the only way who can...only for him to get killed off. Personally, I'd like to see him get impaled by a Triceratops as the way to go. After all, we haven't had a herbivore kill off a major character and Trike hasn't had much screentime, which is odd considering how famous it is, so this works both way.

Dr Wu. "I have realized I caused a mess. But I can fix it. I started this so I know how. It is for the benefit of all of the dinosaurs and humanity that.."


AACCHK! *Gets impaled by a Triceratops halfway though his speech.*

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:51 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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Please no. Not Blue. She's not even close to worth ending Wu's life. Either other raptor or another creation that has the same symbolism of "creation vs creator".


I hope there are other raptors in JW3. I want a TBO type raptor to kill him, not a pet project. Sorry I just don't like Blue, that's all.  Laughing  I think I'll never like her to be honest. But I admit her relationship with Owen had more explanation in this (loved the video Maisie is watching, shows why Blue's unique and some interesting traits).

But as a huge fan of the novels too, I really want Wu's death to be 100% like in the book. With no offscreen bullshit or PG 13. I want the gory death he get's in the book. I think all fans want his death to be like that. Even BD Wong wants it to be like in the book.

And he has every right to claim Blue's as his creation, love when he turns to Zia and says "I designed this animal myself.". He created them, and I think it's awesome to have the movie adress it more, like "this scientist you all pay no attention to is the one who keeps moving things". Considering Zia just
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I really doubt Wu will take an interest in Blue, but we'll see.

Somehow I doubt Wu's demise will be that bloody, given that when the indoraptor bit Wheatley's arm off nothing came out. Is he made out of rubber?

Also, a limb came off when the Rex was eating Mills, and nothing came out of that either. Razz

And you can't say it because of the PG-13, because in Jaws 4 a shark bites someone's arm off and quite a bit of gore came out. Granted, Jaws 4 was awful, but at least they got that right.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:57 pm

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@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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Please no. Not Blue. She's not even close to worth ending Wu's life. Either other raptor or another creation that has the same symbolism of "creation vs creator".


I hope there are other raptors in JW3. I want a TBO type raptor to kill him, not a pet project. Sorry I just don't like Blue, that's all.  Laughing

But as a huge fan of the novels too, I really want Wu's death to be 100% like in the book. With no offscreen bullshit or PG 13. I want the gory death he get's in the book. I think all fans want his death to be like that. Even BD Wong wants it to be like in the book.

And he has every right to claim Blue's as his creation, love when he turns to Zia and says "I designed this animal myself.". He created them, and I think it's awesome to have the movie adress it more, like "this scientist you all pay no attention to is the one who keeps moving things".


You know what would be funny? If Wu had an epiphany about how he was partially responsible for much of all this, starts doing a speech about how he will try and fix it since he's the only way who can...only for him to get killed off. Personally, I'd like to see him get impaled by a Triceratops as the way to go. After all, we haven't had a herbivore kill off a major character and Trike hasn't had much screentime, which is odd considering how famous it is, so this works both way.

Dr Wu. "I have realized I caused a mess. But I can fix it. I started this so I know how. It is for the benefit of all of the dinosaurs and humanity that.."


AACCHK! *Gets impaled by a Triceratops halfway though his speech.*

An herbivore dinosaur killing Wu? Evil Plan

I totally buy it. Would love it too, if they can't find a more suitable raptor in the next one.

You know, now that I'm here in the spoiler thread, before watching it I had the strange feeling
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Laughing

Considering it's Colin who's writing the next movie, I doubt Wu will have any 180 character turn like that. But I hope he ends up being a morally grey character (something I think he is). Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:10 pm

@Robotpo wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Considering how much they've consulted the books for inspiration, and...

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Please no. Not Blue. She's not even close to worth ending Wu's life. Either other raptor or another creation that has the same symbolism of "creation vs creator".


I hope there are other raptors in JW3. I want a TBO type raptor to kill him, not a pet project. Sorry I just don't like Blue, that's all.  Laughing  I think I'll never like her to be honest. But I admit her relationship with Owen had more explanation in this (loved the video Maisie is watching, shows why Blue's unique and some interesting traits).

But as a huge fan of the novels too, I really want Wu's death to be 100% like in the book. With no offscreen bullshit or PG 13. I want the gory death he get's in the book. I think all fans want his death to be like that. Even BD Wong wants it to be like in the book.

And he has every right to claim Blue's as his creation, love when he turns to Zia and says "I designed this animal myself.". He created them, and I think it's awesome to have the movie adress it more, like "this scientist you all pay no attention to is the one who keeps moving things". Considering Zia just
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I really doubt Wu will take an interest in Blue, but we'll see.

Somehow I doubt Wu's demise will be that bloody, given that when the indoraptor bit Wheatley's arm off nothing came out. Is he made out of rubber?

Also, a limb came off when the Rex was eating Mills, and nothing came out of that either.  Razz

And you can't say it because of the PG-13, because in Jaws 4 a shark bites someone's arm off and quite a bit of gore came out. Granted, Jaws 4 was awful, but at least they got that right.

There's no way you can do Wu's book death without gore, unless they cut it. I mean, IMO his death is the most gory one except Nedry's. I have the scene in my head since when I first read it.

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