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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Tue May 29, 2018 9:46 pm

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The big plot twist was planned from the beggining, but was ommited from the novel for some reason.

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As for Sorna, it is not mentioned by name in the movie, but they do talk about the 'other island'. That's about it.

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Spinosaurus, multiple Indoraptors and possibly Metriacanthosaurus all appeared in earlier drafts. Spinosaurus was possibly replaced by Carnotaurus and Metriacanthosaurus by Allosaurus.

Right, all information about Sorna is mostly on the DPG website which is canon. Sorna is basically empty according to the DPG, so there really is no need to bring Sorna into the mix. Spinosaurus WAS replaced by the carno when the trex kills the carno (the spinosaurus was supposed to be killed by the rex), yet even being scrapped, spinosaurus is still labeled as one of the dead dinosaurs on Nublar so I was just wondering if it's death is mentioned in the movie, or if the spinosaurus is mentioned or seen in the movie at all. Just want to know if any sign shows of it's return in JW3 (which I don't want to happen for secret reasons).

Where did you get the part about the Spinosaurus being replaced?
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Tue May 29, 2018 9:50 pm

It seems like this will be by far the most morally challenging Jurassic film. I'm intrigued by their going in this direction. One of the things the original Jurassic did was kick off a conversation about the morality of genetic engineering...it seems like this film could take that debate to another level.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Tue May 29, 2018 9:56 pm

@Zerone01 wrote:
@Sobek wrote:
The big plot twist was planned from the beggining, but was ommited from the novel for some reason.

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As for Sorna, it is not mentioned by name in the movie, but they do talk about the 'other island'. That's about it.

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Spinosaurus, multiple Indoraptors and possibly Metriacanthosaurus all appeared in earlier drafts. Spinosaurus was possibly replaced by Carnotaurus and Metriacanthosaurus by Allosaurus.

Right, all information about Sorna is mostly on the DPG website which is canon. Sorna is basically empty according to the DPG, so there really is no need to bring Sorna into the mix. Spinosaurus WAS replaced by the carno when the trex kills the carno (the spinosaurus was supposed to be killed by the rex), yet even being scrapped, spinosaurus is still labeled as one of the dead dinosaurs on Nublar so I was just wondering if it's death is mentioned in the movie, or if the spinosaurus is mentioned or seen in the movie at all. Just want to know if any sign shows of it's return in JW3 (which I don't want to happen for secret reasons).

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Tue May 29, 2018 11:10 pm

Anybody PM me that massive spoiler? I'm very curious!
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 12:08 am

Feel free to share it on the thread if people want as discussed above, maybe just add the spoiler tags just in case Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 12:50 am

I, too, would love to hear about this twist!
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 1:07 am

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Apologies for being so harsh on spoilers. Just don’t want this fine place to be a point of scrutiny. Have fun discussing guys Smile
No problem man. I did not take your comments as an offense.

Earlier when I messaged you I was just worried that I myself might cause trouble lol. I would much rather this site stay up for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 6:16 am

Can someone please PM me on the spoilers.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 6:17 am

I also wouldn't mind a spoilers PM

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 6:50 am

@TRK wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
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TLW and JP3 and the Game are passively mentioned through the viral websites that are in universe and canon.

Oh please. Websites are the cheapest and laziest way of ensuring that canon is so. with a finished cartoon, movie, or book, once it's finished, it's done. It's solid, concrete, hardened. With a website, it can still be changed on a whim. It's too fluid. Too maluable. Also, the game was barely semi-canon to being with and poor sales did not help. Sorry, but between how they treated Sorna like shit and how they did this in the laziest way possible, is it any wonder why people treat this new trilogy like a different timeline? It's not much different then how SW fans look at the TLJ, even more so considering how KK threw out the old EU. But even then, KK had enough common sense due to the fan outrage to re-canonize much of that. Say what you want about Rouge One (which I really like) and Solo, but at least they keep the PT has hard canon. Even TFA did that. This JW trilogy doesn't do that at all.

Really, I'm stunned about how many fans are just willing to just accept all of this, no questions asked. And even IF this movie ensures that these dumbass sites are canon, then is it really worth destroying the past for the sake of what's going on in the here and now?

DPFAR,

Don’t appreciate the tone dude. Not once did I disagree with anything or say anyThing against it. Was just pointing out what is in play. In reality it’s no different to people not realising that Star Wars comics and Novels are canon. We might see Sorna in the Claire Novel. Whether we like it or not the game and the websites are canon. I don’t agree with how Sorna has been handled but there isn’t much point harping on about something that’s not going to change.

Except that JW changed the continuality to the point where it basically ret-conned the game out as canon. So, claiming that it is when JW changed so much is a mute point.

As for not harping on things that won't change. That's a defeatist mindset. Look at how the backlash against Zilla 98 was so strong that it killed off the sequel and forced Toho to bring back the real Godzilla in 2000. If a fanbase that's much smaller and niche then us can make a difference, then why can't we?


@Sobek wrote:
The big plot twist was planned from the beggining, but was ommited from the novel for some reason.

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As for Sorna, it is not mentioned by name in the movie, but they do talk about the 'other island'. That's about it.

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Spinosaurus, multiple Indoraptors and possibly Metriacanthosaurus all appeared in earlier drafts. Spinosaurus was possibly replaced by Carnotaurus and Metriacanthosaurus by Allosaurus.

Whu is Universal/Spielberg so hellbent on treating Sorna like crap? Do they really just not care?

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 7:07 am

Hi, i'm new here.
Can someone please PM me about that spoiler? Incredibly curious about it..


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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 7:58 am

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@TRK wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@TRK wrote:
TLW and JP3 and the Game are passively mentioned through the viral websites that are in universe and canon.

Oh please. Websites are the cheapest and laziest way of ensuring that canon is so. with a finished cartoon, movie, or book, once it's finished, it's done. It's solid, concrete, hardened. With a website, it can still be changed on a whim. It's too fluid. Too maluable. Also, the game was barely semi-canon to being with and poor sales did not help. Sorry, but between how they treated Sorna like shit and how they did this in the laziest way possible, is it any wonder why people treat this new trilogy like a different timeline? It's not much different then how SW fans look at the TLJ, even more so considering how KK threw out the old EU. But even then, KK had enough common sense due to the fan outrage to re-canonize much of that. Say what you want about Rouge One (which I really like) and Solo, but at least they keep the PT has hard canon. Even TFA did that. This JW trilogy doesn't do that at all.

Really, I'm stunned about how many fans are just willing to just accept all of this, no questions asked. And even IF this movie ensures that these dumbass sites are canon, then is it really worth destroying the past for the sake of what's going on in the here and now?

DPFAR,

Don’t appreciate the tone dude. Not once did I disagree with anything or say anyThing against it. Was just pointing out what is in play. In reality it’s no different to people not realising that Star Wars comics and Novels are canon. We might see Sorna in the Claire Novel. Whether we like it or not the game and the websites are canon. I don’t agree with how Sorna has been handled but there isn’t much point harping on about something that’s not going to change.

Except that JW changed the continuality to the point where it basically ret-conned the game out as canon. So, claiming that it is when JW changed so much is a mute point.

As for not harping on things that won't change. That's a defeatist mindset. Look at how the backlash against Zilla 98 was so strong that it killed off the sequel and forced Toho to bring back the real Godzilla in 2000. If a fanbase that's much smaller and niche then us can make a difference, then why can't we?


@Sobek wrote:
The big plot twist was planned from the beggining, but was ommited from the novel for some reason.

-

As for Sorna, it is not mentioned by name in the movie, but they do talk about the 'other island'. That's about it.

-

Spinosaurus, multiple Indoraptors and possibly Metriacanthosaurus all appeared in earlier drafts. Spinosaurus was possibly replaced by Carnotaurus and Metriacanthosaurus by Allosaurus.

Whu is Universal/Spielberg so hellbent on treating Sorna like crap? Do they really just not care?

I’m literally done having conversation with you if that’s how you are going to be. You didn’t even take the time to address how shitty you spoke,and continue to speak to me and other members.

Clearly your word/say opinion whatever the hell it is, is better and more true than anyone else. So there’s no reasoning. It’s honestly quite poisonous and needs to stop. We value your membership here but I think you take your signature way to literally. Maybe take a step back for five minutes and think.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 8:17 am

I can't believe people are getting so worked up about this Sorna thing. It is not MANDATORY for each movie to be referenced in every new movie. While I like the appreciate the shared universe concept of the Marvel movies where there's a reference to everything, a drawback seems to be that people now EXPECT this kind of interconnectivity. Movies should be able to stand on their own legs, not propped up by a thousand references to other films. If Sorna isn't part of JWFK, that's fine. TLW is a direct sequel to JP that came out only four years after its predecessor, yet it contains few real callbacks to the first film. Why? Because it wasn't about JP, it was its own story. Chill out, people!

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 8:46 am

@FayhdrianColonist wrote:
I can't believe people are getting so worked up about this Sorna thing. It is not MANDATORY for each movie to be referenced in every new movie.

True, that doesn't mean that canon has to be destroyed/be treated like it's nothing for the sake of something new.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 10:41 am

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@FayhdrianColonist wrote:
I can't believe people are getting so worked up about this Sorna thing. It is not MANDATORY for each movie to be referenced in every new movie.

True, that doesn't mean that canon has to be destroyed/be treated like it's nothing for the sake of something new.

There is nothing that is not canon (i don't think - I haven't played the game). Any new fan of Jurassic can go back through the previous movies and websites and link them together, the answers are available. Nothing doesn't fit together on the information we have.

Plus we still have one more movie after JWFK, one that is less action packed so maybe that movie will bring all 5 movies together.

I also cant understand why people are so angry about Sorna not being mentioned, yes the dinosaurs could have gone there, but that wouldn't make much of a movie. It could have been the dinosaurs original destination but that isn't what the movie is about either, they wanted the dinosaurs on the mainland. There may still be dinosaurs on Sorna, that can be ignored for now... who knows, in JW3 they might return there to find that "life has found a way"...

There's a time to complain about what isn't in the movies and that is after seeing them all. These movies are for a HUGE audience of which a majority will not care for the fate of Sorna.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 3:42 pm

Please send me info on blue I want to know if she lives or dies..
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 4:07 pm

Could someone PM me the spoilers too, thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 4:23 pm

Can I get a PM with all the spoilers? Even the unconfirmed one? Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 5:52 pm

Could someone PM me the spoilers/twist? Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 7:46 pm

There are left over mentions of Spinosaurus being in the movie in some of the merchandising. I'm actually happy it didn't return just to be killed off by Rexy.

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Now, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but do people seriously believe Universal would allow Blue or Rexy to be killed off now? These movies are still heavily marketed towards children and you know how much Blue sells, so...
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 8:17 pm

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There are left over mentions of Spinosaurus being in the movie in some of the merchandising. I'm actually happy it didn't return just to be killed off by Rexy.

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Now, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but do people seriously believe Universal would allow Blue or Rexy to be killed off now? These movies are still heavily marketed towards children and you know how much Blue sells, so...

Blue and Rexy will clearly be the hero dinos going forward

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 pm

@Sobek wrote:
There are left over mentions of Spinosaurus being in the movie in some of the merchandising. I'm actually happy it didn't return just to be killed off by Rexy.

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Now, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but do people seriously believe Universal would allow Blue or Rexy to be killed off now? These movies are still heavily marketed towards children and you know how much Blue sells, so...

This. I'm glad too that they cut the Spinosaurus, I'd rather not see it again than have it killed.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 12:53 am

Sorry to be a bother, but could someone PM the spoilers to me? I'm pretty curious. Thanks in advance!
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 2:14 am

ALGUEM TRADUZ ESSA MENSAGEM E ME FALA OQ ACONTECE NO FILME PELAMOR DE DEUS!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 2:23 am

Did we all just come for spoilers or something?

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 2:26 am

Tu sabe me dizer oq acontece no final do filme????
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 3:05 am

Please use Google Translate as this is an English based forum my apologies.

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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 3:06 am

@TRK wrote:
Did we all just come for spoilers or something?

Sorry about that, I just wanted to know what all the hubbub was so I could get a better understanding of what everyone was talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 3:12 am

tell me the ending of the movie
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PostSubject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread   Thu May 31, 2018 3:26 am

What are the deaths?
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