Jurassic Mainframe
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.


Creation is an act of sheer will. Next time it will be flawless...(est. 2016)
 
Jurassic Mainframe NewsHomeAbout UsJurassic-PediaSearchRegisterLog in

 

 The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World

Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
AuthorMessage
Tyrant Lizard
Moderator
Moderator
Tyrant Lizard

Posts : 1430
Points : 3597
Reputation : 101
Join date : 2016-06-07
Location : Over there

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeWed Feb 26, 2020 10:35 am

Have The Lost World and Jurassic Park 3 been treated with the care and reverence that they should have been by Colin Trevorrow and the Jurassic World crew? Should Sorna played more of a role in the Jurassic World films? Should Sorna's fate have been divulged in the World films instead of through the viral marketing? All discussion here!

_______________
Dinosaurs still rule the earth

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Jpbann10
Back to top Go down
Gondrasia
Compsognathus
Compsognathus
Gondrasia

Posts : 132
Points : 1639
Reputation : 2
Join date : 2016-06-14
Location : London

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeWed Feb 26, 2020 1:29 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Have The Lost World and Jurassic Park 3 been treated with the care and reverence that they should have been by Colin Trevorrow and the Jurassic World crew?

With my rather low opinion on The Lost World and Jurassic Park ///, I would say their treatment has been quite adequate. Although it would be nice to have a couple of species and animal designs from those films make a return to Jurassic World Dominion.

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Should Sorna played more of a role in the Jurassic World films?

Definitely not!

Isla Sorna has been poorly handled ever since it was made as the (frankly unnecessary) setting for the second movie and it has caused great confusion to the general public as the large majority of them believe that all of the films in the franchise take place on the same island.

The movie makers had two chances to make Isla Sorna, and they've failed. It was for the better that Sorna was left behind and for focus to return to Isla Nublar.

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Should Sorna's fate have been divulged in the World films instead of through the viral marketing? All discussion here!

I didn’t mind it’s fate being revealed on the viral website, but it would have been nice to at least have a line or two in the World films. Either in the video display at the Innovation Center or in the BBC News report.
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Feb 27, 2020 1:10 am

No offense to anybody...But I do not see how this is even a question… Let us take a look at the evidence;

1) Colin Trevorrow said in an interview (before the release of Jurassic World) that he really did not like The Lost World.

2) Writer Derek Connolly openly said in an interview (before the release of JW) that he only liked the first Jurassic Park and not the other 2.

3) When working on JW, Colin Trevorrow said that the other 2 sequels were being "put to the side". Wich is a passive agressive way to say "I am going to lessen their importance. We can do just fine without them".

4) Ever since Colin Trevorrow became the leader of the Jurassic Franchise in 2013, he has only mentioned TLW and JP3 by name like only once or twice in the last 7 years.

5) Jurassic World avoided and ingnored anything and everything related to TLW and JP3 to the point where while watching it you almost forget they exist.

6) Jurassic World contained a TON of nods and callbacks to the original Jurassic Park and only one obscure nod to JP3 (The Spino skeleton).

7) We understood that maybe they were playing it safe by having JW only reference JP because of the "Nobody cares for TLW and JP3 myth...But then Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom came along and it was yet another "JP and JW are the only things that matter, Sorna, TLW and JP3 are irrelevant" sequel.

8 ) Thus once again JW:FK contained a TON of nods and callbacks to the original Jurassic Park and only one obscure nod to TLW. None for JP3.

9) Not long after JW:FK director J.A. Bayona was asked questions about the entire Jurassic series and he did not even remember the Spinosaurus or JP3 in general.

10) And now here we are casting Jurassic World 3 and once again it seems clear that it is shaping up to be yet another "JP, JW and JW:FK are the only things that matter" type of sequel by casting each and every member of the cast of JP, JW and JW:FK but not a single actor related to TLW, JP3 or Sorna.

Seriously, that is why I lose it everytime I read someone related to JW3 say "This one is going to have more connections to the previous films" yet everytime they only make connections to the original. I nearly fall of my chair everytime I see fans trying to imply that Colin and company are trying to make efforts to keep TLW and JP3 relevant…Seriously at this point they might as well go ahead and declare them non canon...And do not get me wrong, I am not trying to imply that they are evil people. They might be good humble people. But the obvious reality is that they do not care at all for TLW, JP3 or anything Sorna related. If anything they have made efforts to avoid it at all costs, and lessen their relevance as much as they can.

And I know...I know… The Websites….Can you imagine if the original Star Wars films were being made today and Luke started to train to become a Jedi with Obi Wan in A New Hope and then trained with Yoda in Empire Strikes Back but by the time Return of the Jedi came along, the writers ignored that plotline of him becoming a Jedi and only forcused on the general Rebels VS Empire conflict with Luke not even mentioning his status as a Jedi? And then we find out we have to go into websites to find out if he became a Jedi?

That is what they have done with TLW, JP3 and Sorna.

Wich oh by the way...TLW was liked by fans and the general public in 1997, it had no backlash nor was it considered a huge letdown like youtubers love to say. JP3 was the one that did get a lot of backlash for having one of the strangest decisions in film history. Make that clear. Yet Colin and Company really believe the myth that "TLW and JP3 are equally hated". And do not give me the "General Public does not care about Sorna" excuse.

A ton of people in both the hardcore fandom and the general public were asking "Wait...What about the other island" after JW:FK. So we have to put that other myth to rest.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/


Last edited by #TRexSpinorematch on Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:43 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
Gondrasia
Compsognathus
Compsognathus
Gondrasia

Posts : 132
Points : 1639
Reputation : 2
Join date : 2016-06-14
Location : London

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Feb 27, 2020 10:26 am

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
And I know...I know… The Websites….Can you imagine if the original Star Wars films were being made today and Luke started to train to become a Jedi with Obi Wan in A New Hope and then trained with Yoda in Empire Strikes Back but by the time Return of the Jedi came along, the writers ignored that plotline of him becoming a Jedi and only forcused on the general Rebels VS Empire conflict with Luke not even mentioning his status as a Jedi? And then we find out we have to go into websites to find out if he became a Jedi?

That is what they have done with TLW, JP3 and Sorna.

While I do wish there was a brief line of dialogue regarding Sorna’s fate in the movie itself, I'm satisfied by it being on the websites. It may not be much but at least it's better than absolutely nothing, which is more than I can say for how poorly treated Isla Nublar was in TLW and JP///.

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
Wich oh by the way...TLW was liked by fans and the general public in 1997, it had no backlash nor was it considered a huge letdown like youtubers love to say. JP3 was the one that did get a lot of backlash for having one of the strangest decisions in film history. Make that clear. Yet Colin and Company really believe the myth that "TLW and JP3 are equally hated". And do not give me the "General Public does not care about Sorna" excuse.

A ton of people in both the hardcore fandom and the general public were asking "Wait...What about the other island" after JW:FK. So we have to put that other myth to rest.

But here’s the thing that you’re seemingly unaware of; times change and opinions change as well. Things that we thought that were great when they were new, can become terrible over time after reflection and rewatches. I too once thought The Lost World was a great sequel and also didn’t like what some of the YouTubers said about it. I was also surprised by the general public’s lack of interest in the movie, and I wanted to understand why.

When only taking the first movie into account and leaving aside the novels and the fan-made Wikipedias, some of the criticisms became very understandable, as well as some of my own issues with The Lost World. Such as how the protagonists either do absolutely nothing or make the situation even worse, the confusing and rather jarring transition from the island to the mainland and, worst of all, the pointless and unnecessary new island setting that the movie's plot is centred on.

There’s no reason for Isla Sorna to be in this movie, Isla Nublar had everything! The breeding dinosaurs, the establishing of an ecosystem and infrastructure. Continuity wise and thematically speaking, the movie would have been better had it been set on Nublar, as it would change like John Hammond and would be revealed to the world not as a theme park but as a nature preserve. What makes this even worse though, is that The Lost World movie never explains what happened to Isla Nublar, but now we’re supposed to care about the plight of the dinosaurs that just so happen to exist on this other island that’s actually the factory floor where they were all made from; even though we never actually see the “factory floor” at all in TLW!

And that’s what Isla Sorna in the movies will forever be known for; the other island, the uninteresting one of the two, the creative dead end. Its fate has never been fully revealed on the websites other than being empty of dinosaurs and still owned by Masrani Global, but honestly it could be a nuclear waste disposal site or suffered the same catastrophic volcanic activity as Isla Nublar had for all I care.

As far as I'm considered, this franchise is better off without it; good riddance!
Back to top Go down
eagc7
Embryo
Embryo
eagc7

Posts : 40
Points : 1552
Reputation : 1
Join date : 2016-06-08
Location : Guatemala

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Feb 27, 2020 11:20 am

@Gondrasia wrote:

There’s no reason for Isla Sorna to be in this movie, Isla Nublar had everything! The breeding dinosaurs, the establishing of an ecosystem and infrastructure. Continuity wise and thematically speaking, the movie would have been better had it been set on Nublar, as it would change like John Hammond and would be revealed to the world not as a theme park but as a nature preserve. What makes this even worse though, is that The Lost World movie never explains what happened to Isla Nublar, but now we’re supposed to care about the plight of the dinosaurs that just so happen to exist on this other island that’s actually the factory floor where they were all made from; even though we never actually see the “factory floor” at all in TLW!
At the very least the book had a reason as why they needed to introduce a second secret island given in the book canon Nublar was blown up, but that was not the case with the film universe, so as you said you could've adapted the film version of TLW with Nublar rather than bringing Sorna like in the book

_______________
The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  T-rex-1-1
Back to top Go down
http://transformerstopmotion.wikia.com/wiki/Eagc7_Transformers/M
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2020 1:40 am

@Gondrasia wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
And I know...I know… The Websites….Can you imagine if the original Star Wars films were being made today and Luke started to train to become a Jedi with Obi Wan in A New Hope and then trained with Yoda in Empire Strikes Back but by the time Return of the Jedi came along, the writers ignored that plotline of him becoming a Jedi and only forcused on the general Rebels VS Empire conflict with Luke not even mentioning his status as a Jedi? And then we find out we have to go into websites to find out if he became a Jedi?

That is what they have done with TLW, JP3 and Sorna.

While I do wish there was a brief line of dialogue regarding Sorna’s fate in the movie itself, I'm satisfied by it being on the websites. It may not be much but at least it's better than absolutely nothing, which is more than I can say for how poorly treated Isla Nublar was in TLW and JP///.

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
Wich oh by the way...TLW was liked by fans and the general public in 1997, it had no backlash nor was it considered a huge letdown like youtubers love to say. JP3 was the one that did get a lot of backlash for having one of the strangest decisions in film history. Make that clear. Yet Colin and Company really believe the myth that "TLW and JP3 are equally hated". And do not give me the "General Public does not care about Sorna" excuse.

A ton of people in both the hardcore fandom and the general public were asking "Wait...What about the other island" after JW:FK. So we have to put that other myth to rest.

But here’s the thing that you’re seemingly unaware of; times change and opinions change as well. Things that we thought that were great when they were new, can become terrible over time after reflection and rewatches. I too once thought The Lost World was a great sequel and also didn’t like what some of the YouTubers said about it. I was also surprised by the general public’s lack of interest in the movie, and I wanted to understand why.

When only taking the first movie into account and leaving aside the novels and the fan-made Wikipedias, some of the criticisms became very understandable, as well as some of my own issues with The Lost World. Such as how the protagonists either do absolutely nothing or make the situation even worse, the confusing and rather jarring transition from the island to the mainland and, worst of all, the pointless and unnecessary new island setting that the movie's plot is centred on.

There’s no reason for Isla Sorna to be in this movie, Isla Nublar had everything! The breeding dinosaurs, the establishing of an ecosystem and infrastructure. Continuity wise and thematically speaking, the movie would have been better had it been set on Nublar, as it would change like John Hammond and would be revealed to the world not as a theme park but as a nature preserve. What makes this even worse though, is that The Lost World movie never explains what happened to Isla Nublar, but now we’re supposed to care about the plight of the dinosaurs that just so happen to exist on this other island that’s actually the factory floor where they were all made from; even though we never actually see the “factory floor” at all in TLW!

And that’s what Isla Sorna in the movies will forever be known for; the other island, the uninteresting one of the two, the creative dead end. Its fate has never been fully revealed on the websites other than being empty of dinosaurs and still owned by Masrani Global, but honestly it could be a nuclear waste disposal site or suffered the same catastrophic volcanic activity as Isla Nublar had for all I care.

As far as I'm considered, this franchise is better off without it; good riddance!


I am aware that sometimes opinions change. In fact I lived the era where the Star Wars prequels had mixed reactions (1999 to 2005) then the YouTube era came along and kept saying everybody hated them with enormous passion (2006 to 2015) and now with the backlash to The Last Jedi having way too many things that make no sense, the reputation of the prequels went up like crazy (2017 to present). Now everyone is nostalgic about them and even the biggest hater of the prequels is able to say "hey, at least they had a plan beforehand that made sense".

But this is not quite the same with TLW. The general consensus in 1997 was that while it was not as good as the original, it was not even close to being a disliked or much less hated film. Wich is why it is strange that youtubers love to repeat that it was this "huge let down" since 2006. But when you actually ask the hardcore fanbase, it was still considered the second best film in the franchise by many fans in 2006 and even after the 2015 hype of Jurassic World many still had it as the second best. Recent polls show that. Notice how almost all fans here have either JP or TLW as their favorite film. The reputation of TLW never changed among fans. Wich is why what youtubers do is repeating a myth.

Now about the islands I would not say that fans feel Sorna is that insignificant. After all, it led to many many questions after all of the movies post JP. And for all this talk about how "The general public does not remember it". It was the general public saying "Wait...What about the other Island?" after JWFK. Maybe you were not that into it, but make no mistake about it, millions of fans love Sorna.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
TyrannosaurTJ
Gallimimus
Gallimimus
TyrannosaurTJ

Posts : 220
Points : 1460
Reputation : 10
Join date : 2017-03-11
Location : Ohio, United States

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2020 8:48 am

I think the subject of Sorna and the other two sequels in the Park Trilogy haven't had the best coverage in the Jurassic World trilogy at all. I mean the fact is the general public opinion over the second and third films are mostly negative anyways so I get why the idea would be to avoid these "blemishes" when making the World trilogy. What irritates me is the sort of "revisionist" approach the World trilogy has taken with their success over the Park Trilogy. If you look at a lot of marketing from Universal there's no connection to the success of the past and this is unfortunate itself. Honestly I feel like this is similar to blaming the Spinosaurus entirely for the faults of the third film when it was really just a matter of how such things were used creatively and the creative direction with JP3 was overall lacking in the things that made the first and even second film to me memorable and fun.

I do feel TLW gets too much flack because it had the same shortcomings as the original film in a lot of ways with things like pacing, cutting important scenes to help the flow of continuity, and character development/human interaction. I will always consider TLW the ideal sequel myself though despite the shortcomings. I feel like avoiding the subject of Sorna that the World trilogy is doing is a mistake considering that both TLW and JP3 spent some time trying to add a layer of mystery and add to the history of the series with Sorna. I do appreciate the efforts from the viral marketing though to tie it up by implying it's been pillaged/abandoned again by Masrani/InGen and poachers, but I think with this final film of the World trilogy it's basically the elephant in the room that needs to be tied up since the question hasn't been answered directly and properly by primary media like the films.

_______________
The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Tytj10
Paleontology Enthusiast, Life long Learner, Citizen Scientist, Jurassic-series Media Archivist
Jurassic-Pedia - The Jurassic Park/World Encyclopedia
"So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again." - Corrax Entry 7:17
Back to top Go down
http://www.jurassic-pedia.com/
Troyal1
Veteran
Veteran
Troyal1

Posts : 1704
Points : 3293
Reputation : 67
Join date : 2016-06-08

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2020 1:24 pm

I absolute love Sorna so no I don’t think it has gotten it's respect. But at the same time I don’t really view this new trilogy in high esteem so it’s whatever for me. And obviously they just don’t see a way to incorporate it well.

Sorna is such a cool and mysterious place so I’d love to see a prequel there. Or when the inevitable reboot happens
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeSat Feb 29, 2020 12:58 am

And (this is my experience only but) in my 23 years as a Jurassic Park fan...I have yet to meet anyone from the general audience or casual fans who genuinely dislike The Lost World. Seriously, since 1997 I have asked people their opinions of TLW and the rest of the films and their opinions are always the same. They always tell me they like the first one the best, then they have the second one in second place and the third one is the one they dislike.

But not a single person has ever told me they "dislike" or much less "hate" TLW. Not even close. In fact even online, when you actually ask people the WHY behind the "dislike" for TLW what they usually respong is with 2 things, "Oh it does not have the awe and wow factor of the first" and the gymnastics scene. And I am sure there might be people who genuinely dislike it (every major film has haters) but in general. TLW is not a disliked or hated film by neither the general public or hardcore fans.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Rhedosaurus
Veteran
Veteran
Rhedosaurus

Posts : 4763
Points : 6457
Reputation : 66
Join date : 2016-06-08
Location : Armada, Michigan

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeSun Mar 01, 2020 4:10 pm

[quote="Gondrasia"]
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
And I know...I know… The Websites….Can you imagine if the original Star Wars films were being made today and Luke started to train to become a Jedi with Obi Wan in A New Hope and then trained with Yoda in Empire Strikes Back but by the time Return of the Jedi came along, the writers ignored that plotline of him becoming a Jedi and only forcused on the general Rebels VS Empire conflict with Luke not even mentioning his status as a Jedi? And then we find out we have to go into websites to find out if he became a Jedi?

That is what they have done with TLW, JP3 and Sorna.

While I do wish there was a brief line of dialogue regarding Sorna’s fate in the movie itself, I'm satisfied by it being on the websites. It may not be much but at least it's better than absolutely nothing, which is more than I can say for how poorly treated Isla Nublar was in TLW and JP///.

Sorry, but accepting websites to fill in plot holes is not only accepting bad moviemaking, it also accepting bad storytelling in general. I shouldn't have to go to a website as a way to fill in major plot holes when I should expect to see them explained IN THE ACTUAL MOVIE! No other fanbase of a franchise expects this and, quite frankly, neither should we. The last one to do was was the rebooted timeline (Kelvin Timeline) of Star Trek via Trek '09 ah la Nero, the villian of the movie. The site went into great detail of his past and motives, but when the actual movie came out, there was little of that in the movie. So from that standpoint, the site was a failure. Even the movies in the Godzillaverse are made in ways that don't really care about the tie-in sites.

Also, by letting Universal half-ass canon, you are also greenlighting them half-assing this franchise in general.

That and TLW has gotten more love by the GA as time has gone by and is still a fan favorite.

The more as time goes on, the more I wish we had a movie that took place between JP3 and JW so that we wouldn't being having this problem instead of getting the braindead trainwreck we did get.

_______________
The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.

If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. Michael Crichton




If you're concerned about where this franchise is headed, then please join us.
Back to top Go down
Megatronus Rex
Hatchling
Hatchling
Megatronus Rex

Posts : 97
Points : 1599
Reputation : 3
Join date : 2016-06-07

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeSun Mar 01, 2020 6:23 pm

I don't think Sorna and the two sequels set on it have been given enough credit. Two films were set on this island and it's been mentioned exactly once in the World films collectively (and in an ADR'd line, no less). Sure, it's been discussed somewhat on the DPG website and Sorna was briefly mentioned in Claire's prequel novel, but that's not enough, in my opinion. This franchise wouldn't be as big as it is without TLW and JP3. It feels like the adventures and characters from those films have been relegated to "eh, they exist but they're not important."

Sarah Harding isn't important enough? Roland Tembo isn't important enough? Peter Ludlow isn't important enough? Seeing parental Tyrannosaurus isn't important enough? A Tyrannosaurus on the mainland isn't important enough? An entire second island where most of InGen's dirty secrets transpired isn't important enough to delve into?

The fact that so many people did and still are asking "what about the second island?" due to how JWFK handled it is telling in my mind. Sorna and the sequels deserve more respect than they've gotten.
Back to top Go down
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuEb77i1zKVDNUSAyk_pZ-A
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2020 2:13 am

And to continue to tackle this "TLW is seen in a negative light by the general public" myth…

I was taking a look at IMDB and the reviews for TLW and here are the first ones that show up:

7/10
"Yeah. Ooh-ah, that's how it always starts."
classicsoncall25 January 2015
Warning: Spoilers
37 out of 43 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

I guess I'll have to put this one under my guilty pleasures department. I've always been a sucker for dinosaurs, and with the filming technology available today, a film like this one and it's predecessor have just the right ingredients for a fun time. Granted, there are many elements in the story here that don't make a whole lot of sense, but there's that old saying about suspending disbelief, so that's what I'm applying here.

Besides all the puzzling plot elements, and you know what most of them are, here's one I picked up in an early scene. When Kelly (Vanessa Lee Chester) looks at the wall map showing 'Las Cinco Muertes', The Five Deaths, the island of Isla Sorna is at the center of that cluster. In the opening screen narrative it's stated that this island is eighty seven miles southwest of Isla Nublar, but none of the other islands on the map go by that name. So a bit of a continuity slip-up there.

You know what I got a kick out of? At one point, one of the principal characters upon arriving on the island, states that the Eisenberg Uncertainty Principle is in effect, that is, it's not possible to study something without changing it. That was oddly reminiscent of the original Star Trek Prime Directive; an interesting concept but virtually impossible to maintain, because once you're there, your actions have consequences.

Say, and how about that Roland (Pete Postlethwaite), is he a Nascar contender or what? Recall when the InGen team first arrive on Isla Sorna and he's driving on the jungle trails with Ludlow (Arliss Howard). I had to rewind the scene because he had his head turned completely around to Ludlow in the back seat for a full forty seconds at one point - how did he do that?

Well anyway, not a lot of credibility to the picture, but how can you not marvel at the imaginative CGI work creating those magnificent dinosaurs? Stego's, T-Rex's and all those mini-predators make for a couple hours of dino fun. You don't even have to pay attention to the scientists.

9/10
Supremely Thrilling, Suspenseful, and Visually Breathtaking, The Lost World is a Summer Blockbuster Sequel Done Right
jaredpahl29 August 2015
Warning: Spoilers
95 out of 118 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

The Lost World: Jurassic Park, the sequel to Steven Spielberg's iconic blockbuster, was released to massive commercial success, but critical disappointment. While audiences flocked to see the follow-up to the highest grossing movie of all-time, critics lambasted the movie for failing to live up to the high mark set by its groundbreaking predecessor. I'm here to set the record straight. The critics were demonstrably wrong. The Lost World is one of the most underrated, and over-hated movies of recent memory. Four years after Jurassic Park captivated audiences around the world, Steven Spielberg returned to the director's chair to craft a sequel that matched the original in every area that mattered. The Lost World is as technically accomplished, as thrilling, and as exquisitely crafted as the highly praised, Jurassic Park. Critics be damned!

Michael Crichton's sequel novel serves as inspiration for The Lost World's story, which introduces Isla Sorna, or Site B, as its main setting. This island is the site where Jurassic Park's dinosaurs were bred and raised. After the events of Jurassic Park, the site was abandoned and dinosaurs roam free once again, in a proverbial "lost world". Ian Malcolm, the neurotic chaotician from the first film, is the centerpiece figure of The Lost World, substituting for Sam Neil's Alan Grant, who was left out of Crichton's book. Malcolm's girlfriend, Sarah Harding (Julianne Moore) and her team of biologists are sent to Isla Sorna to study the unique animals on the island. Meanwhile, InGen's team, led by great white hunter Roland Tembo, played with scene-stealing gusto by the late, great Pete Postlethwaite, come to capture some of the island's larger inhabitants. Ian Malcolm learns of this news and takes it upon himself to retrieve his girlfriend from the dinosaur-infested island. The Lost World doesn't bother much with exposition (After the pieces are put in place, it's non-stop dino-action), but David Koepp's script is not simple-minded. Here is a story that, in its own way, still develops its characters and encourages engagement. There are ideas present in The Lost World (on greed, nature, human hubris), which is more than you can say about its successors.

One of the criticisms The Lost World often receives is that it lacks the compelling characters of the first film. It's a complaint that holds no water. Moore's wide-eyed, overly enthusiastic Dr. Harding, Vince Vaughn's militant eco-activist, Nick Van Owen, the aforementioned big game hunter, Tembo, and the rest of the new characters are, in the most basic sense, well drawn. What they lack in situational awareness (haters will have you know that there are dumb decisions made by some), they make up for in personality. Love them or hate them, these are real characters. People, with passions and flaws. Not the fleshy placeholders of JP3 and Jurassic World. And that's not to mention Jeff Goldblum, who carries the protagonist load admirably. When you think about it, his role here is not only different from the first film, but different from most anything Goldblum has done. We know he can do quirky, but his understated cynicism here comes off totally natural all the way through. Malcolm is the ultimate grounding force among all the dinosaur chaos; a huge asset to the movie.

The cogent story and memorable characters, as welcome as they are, are only the icing on this cake. The essence of The Lost World is its fantastic dinosaur action. Here is where this movie outclasses nearly all its competitors. The Lost World is Steven Spielberg flexing his cinematic muscles. He takes the set pieces, a trailer dangling off a cliff, a basecamp ambush by territorial T-Rexes, or a raptor hunt in long grass, and weaves from them some real tension, suspense, and above all, thrills. Spielberg knows how to tease an action scene and have it explode to life at just the right time. Even when things move to San Diego in the final act, the richness of Spielberg's action remains. His sense for visual iconography, like glass slowly cracking, shadows streaking across tents, and trails being made in grass, is unparalleled. We've grown used to modern action that numbs the senses, but the satisfaction of Spielberg's action is that it enriches them. At this point, he's just showing off.

But what is dinosaur action without the dinos themselves? If Jurassic Park redefined creature effects for the modern age, The Lost World perfected them. Combining the very best of both animatronics and digital effects, Stan Winston and ILM create dinosaurs even more dazzling than those in Jurassic Park. The intricately detailed large scale animatronics move smoothly with a wide range of motion, and the CGI is as photo real as anything in 1997, or today for that matter, but what separates these dinosaurs from other movie monsters is the way they are treated as characters. The dinosaurs of the Lost World: Jurassic Park are written and directed with a constant eye for realism. The T-Rex parents, the biggest stars of the film, don't chase and eat people just because they are T-Rexes. When they attack, we know why. They exhibit maternal instincts when their baby is taken from them and territorial instincts when the scientists venture too far into their domain (As do the stegosauruses, in a fabulous early scene). It is a credit to writer David Koepp that a film that could have easily devolved into mindless action maintains a certain level of intelligence, even in its most fantastic moments. And we aren't just told that the dinosaurs are "animals, not monsters". They actually behave that way. The T-Rexes sniff the air for signs of their baby, the raptors snap at each other during a hunt, the compys swarm a piece of food dropped on the beach; These moments feel like they were taken from a documentary. Of course this is how dinosaurs would behave. They are given reasons to roar and chase, when the lazy thing to do would be to create dinosaurs that exist only to look cool.

Okay, so the story may not be as fresh as the original Jurassic Park, I can buy that, but The Lost World matches the first movie in nearly every other way. The special effects, action, score, set design, cinematography, you name it, they all carry the same mark of quality as the original Jurassic Park. There is passion behind the creation of The Lost World: Jurassic Park. A novel from Michael Crichton, Steven Spielberg at the helm, ILM and Stan Winston at the top of their respective games, and John Williams providing the music; This is the only Jurassic Park sequel that can stand with the original. It does exactly what a big budget sequel should do. It skips through the requisite set-up and launches full force into the thrills. The Lost World is jam-packed with jaw-dropping special effects and pulse-pounding action, yet it stays smart enough and scary enough to feel fulfilling. It's the very best kind of summer popcorn entertainment, and without question the best sequel to Jurassic Park.

89/100

8/10
Not as good as the original but it's still a very good movie in it's own right.
gummydy17 June 2015
Warning: Spoilers
66 out of 81 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

The Lost World takes place 4 years after the disaster in the original Jurassic Park with Ian Malcolm discovering from John Hammond that there is a second island full of dinosaurs waiting to be exploited by the New heads of Ingen. So with the help of his friends, Malcolm tries to stop them in order to keep the dinosaurs from not only being exploited but to save his girlfriend who is also on the island. With that action comes the danger and mayhem that you would expect from a sequel to Jurassic Park. Jeff Goldblum shines once again as Ian Malcolm and Richard Attenborough shines once again in a extended cameo. The new cast starting with Julianne Moore is good as well and the tension and action is up a notch from the original Jurassic Park. What hurts this film a little is it's climax at The San Diego Zoo that is a bit too over the top but regardless, Spielberg's magic is still evident and it still delivers.

8/10

8/10
The Lost World is a Very Unappreciated Sequel
jaredmartin-464-71171121 June 2015
Warning: Spoilers
79 out of 99 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

The Lost World is Steven Spielberg's follow up to the innovative Jurassic Park, so how does it's sequel measure up by comparison? Well it's far better than most have given it credit for. The Lost World is a flawed film, but it's a film that set out to be different, and not just a rehash of the previous film, something the newest film in the franchise Jurassic World has done. Many seem to like Jurassic World for how it "recaptures" the feel of the original film, but by comparison, comes off as a pale soulless imitation of Jurassic Park.

The Lost World however, gets away from the theme park idea, and does something that wasn't expected. In The Lost World it is revealed that there was another island called Isla Sorna (Site B) that had dinosaurs that were bred, and raised before being brought to Jurassic Park, on Isla Nublar. The film starts with a wealthy family yachting, and stumble upon Isla Sorna, where their daughter is severely injured by little dinosaurs called Compsognathus that act like land Piranha.

Jeff Goldblum reprises his role as Dr. Ian Malcolm, and is summoned by John Hammond for reasons unknown. Ian Malcolm is still a sarcastic character, much like he was in Jurassic Park, but his character is visibly different after the events of Jurassic park, he rarely laughs, or smiles, and Ingen has made Ian a laughing stock, after trying to create public awareness after what happened to him at the park. Hammond is also losing his credibility, after the incident at Jurassic Park, and Ingen has taken control away from Hammond, and given it to his arrogant nephew, named Ludlow, who Malcolm has clashes with.

Hammond tells Malcolm that he has been trying to preserve Isla Sorna, and protect it from human interference, but implies that the island is in danger of being pillaged for it's assets. Hammond say's public opinion could keep exploiters from removing the dinosaurs, but that in order to gain such support, a photo record must be obtained, which means sending people in to research, which Ian immediately disapproves of. This is until he finds out that his girlfriend, Sarah Harding a Paleontologists, has already gone to the island. This gives Malcolm as reason to go to a place he would rather never revisit again, as this dinosaur island has no fences of any kind, and the dinosaurs are free roaming.

Ian arrives to the island with two other companions Eddie Carr, a field equipment expert, and Nick Van Owen, a video documentarian as well as Malcolm's daughter Kelly (a unneeded character) who sneaks aboard the ship in one of the team's vehicles. Soon they find Sarah, and come across a herd of Stegosaurus, where Sarah has a close encounter when she gets to close to an infant Stegosaurus. The Lost World focuses a great deal on the nurturing habits of dinosaurs, which expands upon the first film, which tried to portray dinosaurs not only as movie monsters, but as animals. This film carries that idea further, and delves into how these animals act in a more naturalistic environment. The T-Rex's also have an infant, that gets injured by Ingen's team. Sarah, and Nick repair the baby's leg, but when the T-Rex's show up, they're less than appreciative, and wreck the trailers/vehicles, believing they have to defend their territory further.

This forces Malcolm, and his companions to join forces with Ingen's team headed by Ludlow, but lead by Roland Tembo, played by the late Pete Postlethwaite. Of course since both teams have different agenda's this leads to conflict. Regardless they come together to try and reach a communication center to get off the island. Of course along the way dinosaurs show up, resulting in casualties. After the group gets separated by the T-Rex's, Roland tranquilizes the male T-Rex. Ludlow then want's to bring it to San Diego, where a facility has been built to house the dinosaurs, since the dinosaurs captured earlier were released by Sarah, and Nick. This is where many people are left divided, some liking the T-Rex running around San Diego, and some hating it.

There's no denying that the way the T-Rex gets to the mainland isn't well executed, and makes little sense. It also may feel tacked on because it was, the original ending was different, but Spielberg felt the The Lost World needed a bigger ending, just as he did with Jurassic Park. While it may seem out of place, the entire film teases the idea of bringing dinosaurs back to the mainland. Malcolm, and Sarah find the infant T-Rex that was also brought back, and use it to lure the adult T-Rex, back to the cargo hold of the ship, where they both could be contained, and be brought back to the island. Not before the T-Rex causes some dino-damage down the streets of San Diego, which admittedly is neat to see.

The Lost World isn't as good as Jurassic Park, but it isn't as bad as critics, and "fans" alike have made it out to be. The Lost World has it's issues, such as underwritten plot elements/characters, and unneeded characters like Malcolm's daughter Kelly, but also has a strong cast/performances, and the effects are even more believable looking than in the first film. The animatronic dinosaurs looked even more convincing in The Lost World, especially the T-Rex's that had subtle changes made mechanically, making them much more lifelike. The CGI is also impressive, especially during the Compsognathus sequence that required the animation of several little dinosaurs. John Williams provides another great score for The Lost World, adding more tribal melodies to go with the mood, and look of the film. The Lost World may not be Spielberg's best film, but it's hardly his worst, and it's a decent, well made followup to a film that never really needed one.

8/10
Very good
SanteeFats7 July 2013
Warning: Spoilers
66 out of 82 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

Not quite as good as the first one only because several of the first movie cast was not in it. Sam Neill, Laura Dern are two that come to mind. This is still an excellent movie. Jeff Golblum is back as Doctor Ian Malcolm and does his usual good job. His character is still insightful and more importantly he still gets some humorous lines as well. Julianne Moore plays a very tunnel vision doctor that is more interested in the animals than in her own survival, at least at times. One of the not so good guys that are also on this island if the hunter played by Pete Postlethwaite. He is there for the protection but his personal objective is to bag a big one. Well it turns out he gets bagged.

8/10
Above Average Sequel
FilmCell12 August 2001
The Lost World: Jurassic Park is an above average sequel. I just saw it for the third time and I will still continue to fight for it. The script (although containing flaws) is a billion times better than its sequel, Jurassic Park 3. When I look back at the three times I've seen it (Theater, VHS, DVD) I saw very few flaws in an overall exciting movie. The biggest flaw is that the "wonder and amazement" were at a low level. This is mainly because we were exposed to it in the first film and it is hard to keep things fresh. Other than that, this film is one of the better sequels ever. Great action and adventure, (3 of 4 stars)
92 out of 117 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

9/10
Still the best sequel to Jurassic Park.
JDheart27 June 2015
Warning: Spoilers
61 out of 76 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

The Lost World has its problems. Yes, the wonder is gone and seeing dinosaurs this time did not have the same impact as it did with the original but this film still manages to pack a mean punch in terms of action and scares. Jeff Goldblem is fantastic, proving to be the best lead this series has had and the movie carries two of the best scenes ever filmed by Spielberg himself. The first involves the trailer over the cliff and the raptors in grass scene which still remains one of the scariest scenes Spielberg has done since the original Jaws. The movie also still has the intelligence and wit of the original Jurassic Park, something neither the terrible Jurassic Park 3 or its much more fun follow up Jurassic World had.

After all these years, The Lost World still remains the best sequel in the series and rightfully so.

7/10
Entertaining and unbelievable
gcd7028 June 2008
Warning: Spoilers
42 out of 51 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

As entertaining, and as unbelievable, as the first is Spielberg's return to rampant, DNA induced Dino's, "The Lost World".

I guess a sequel was inevitable, as is the final twenty minutes of this film. Surprises are supplied in the script, yet most of the action sequences lack imagination. Only the very early scenes impress, the initial encounters being at times thrilling, especially the scene in which the T-Rex's shove twin trailers over a cliff.

Special effects again take the limelight, but we've seen it all before, so the affect is diminished. John Williams score makes a welcome return, and his aural composition is supported by great cinematography.

Dr. Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum) returns from "Jurassic Park", and is now the hero of the moment. Goldblum plays well the mathematician who is decidedly unenthusiastic about being among the deadly dinosaurs. Much more keen is his new g.f., played by the likable Julianne Moore. She is the palaeontologist who volunteers to observe the dinosaurs in their natural habitat and make recordings for entrepreneur Sir Richard Attenborough. Vince Vaughn forms part of this passive group. Heading up an opposing, aggressive band who plan to capture and export the beasts is Pete Postlethwaite, portraying most enjoyably the great white hunter who longs to stalk a male T-Rex.

Leave it to Spielberg to recreate the excitement, drama and thrills of the first film. A shame about the closing thirty minutes though.

Sunday, July 13, 1997 - Knox District Centre

7/10
Part II.
AaronCapenBanner18 September 2013
Steven Spielberg returned to direct this sequel,(loosely) based on the Michael Crichton novel that sees Jeff Goldblum returning as Dr. Ian Malcolm, who is enlisted by John Hammond(Richard Attenborough again) to return to Jurassic Park(though on previously unmentioned Site B) to study the dinosaur population, and also to rescue another team, which includes a former flame of his(played by Julianne Moore). He reluctantly agrees, and after locating her, finds to their disgust that the company INGEN has allowed hunting parties to take place, where big-game hunters(led by Pete Postlethwaite) stalk and kill dinosaurs, though the tables would of course be turned...

Good sequel has equally effective F/X and terrifying story, though a few too many characters; the twist toward the end is surprising and entertaining, though some poor editing leaves a big plot hole aboard the discovered freighter...still, a worthy sequel that holds up today.
66 out of 83 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

8/10
Here Come the Money Shots!!
gigan-9230 September 2010
Warning: Spoilers
53 out of 66 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

Here comes the sequel to an epic. Steven Spielberg is back and what we get is a mixed bag. I saw it as a kid and naturally loved it. But as we grow older, so do our knowledge and need for probing. Some cast members did not return and weren't even referenced to at all in the story but other aspects in this film make up for it. Jeff Goldblum does reprise his role and I'm quite happy about that. Julian Moore and Vince Vaughn star here, but to me the actor who really caught my eye was Pete Postlethwaite, as Roland. In terms of story this film was definitely built as a thriller. A lot of the story is non-sensible, as I'm sure you've read. The boat somehow guiding itself back to the exact spot where it was destined via no pilot (or maybe auto-pilot…), an experienced mercenary on an island full of flesh-eating dinosaurs wandering off just to take a leak, with Juan listening to his MP3 trying to catch a baby dinosaur when I'm sure you heard its enraged father is right behind him…eh, the list goes on give or take. Basically this purely a money-shot type of film. We do see a bit of a deeper side to Goldblum's character and that does add a bit of zest to it all. A lot of the other characters are mildly gone into, just barely enough to get a sense of who they are. But suckers like me to this day end up caring for them. Ha-ha Decent characterization at best.

Once again a riveting score by John Willams, but in all fairness we get no real time to appreciate it. The SFX of course good as can possibly be, but we established that in the first movie. In America what movie doesn't have good SFX? That's why I don't care when people say Godzilla films SFX are terrible. Because I LOVE dinosaurs I give it a 7.9, around a near B-, but no doubt still a keeper by far. I proudly own the DVD as part of my collection.

7/10
Not perfect but you know what pretty damn good
AdderCowley12 November 2007
Warning: Spoilers
64 out of 82 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

The Lost World was a film which had to reach a very high standard. following the impressive Jurassic Park which pioneered the consistent use of CGI and arguably one of film's most symbolic creatures, T-Rex.

Because of this a pretty good film was slated. In one sense justifiably so as the Lost World could never compare to the first instalment in the franchise. It was always going to be an impossible task to improve on the first film which had so much going for it and unsurprisingly it is not the best film in the world.

In some respects this film does shoot itself in the foot. The end sequence is silly, there are numerous unexplored errors and for the raptor fans, they get a pretty raw deal. Furthermore the Lost World continued on the premise that children would be able to survive a dinosaur attack while mercenaries with guns could not...

If you leave these issues aside the Lost World is a respectable movie and no matter how many times I watch it does entertain.

What I liked was that unlike Jurassic Park 3, it continued the idea of the dinosaurs being animals rather than monsters. Apart from the Raptors which were just as scary and monstrous as in the first film, none of the animals attack for pleasure or financial gain (compared to the humans in the film). They hunt and kill for their basic needs and instincts. One could say that the film follows an ecological route, and criticises all corporate involvement in animal exploitation.

Plot wise, The Lost World is basically an add on to the first film. We find out that there is another island other than Isla Nublar with dinosaurs called Isla Sorna and the now bankrupt Ingen wants to harvest the island in order to ship the dinosaurs back to the mainland.

Hammond, who had recently lost control of the company, however disapproves of this and so decides to construct a team to document the animals in order to gain public support for their conservation. He tries to recruit first film survivor Ian Malcolm who initially refuses.

However when Malcolm finds out his girlfriend Dr.Harding has already gone to the island on her own he decides to rescue her. What transpires is a 2 hour survival movie full of dinosaur attacks, suspense, action and Jeff Goldblum (Malcolm) attempting sarcasm along the way.

While the sarcasm may grate after a while the movie does have some great one liners:

Nick:"Hammond's check cleared or I wouldn't be going on this wild goose chase".

Malcolm: "Well your going to the only place in the world where the geese chase you"

Similarily while the plot isn't that complicated the characters are enjoyable. Malcolm is definitely the funniest with his sarcastic one liners (see above). Roland played by Pete Posthelwaite (a surprising casting as I would not expect to see him in a Hollywood action movie) is especially good as the cold, yet human hunter character in the film.

The only annoying character is surprise, surprise Malcolm's daughter Kelly, who despite spending almost the entire film screaming and whining about the least bit thing (stereotype teenager), is brave enough to do a complicated gymnastic routine inside a derelict house on rusty bars to kick a Raptor through a window. It is an annoying trait in Jurassic Park that in every film there is always an annoying kid.

Interestingly when compared to the book the film is does a good job. Jurassic Park the film was nowhere near as good as the novel but there is a definite improvement over the Lost World Novel in this film. Not saying the book was bad (or for that matter the first film), it was just that I enjoyed the film a lot more. My advice is to watch the film before you read the book. While the book has its moments don't expect it to be a repeat of Crichton's classic first novel.

Additionaly the CGI and models come back with avengence!!! As you'd expect after 4 years of development the dinosaurs look better than ever, and still look pretty impressive. Certainly this film has aged pretty well.

The moving models have improved as well. Supposedly both T-Rex's in Lost World contained twice the equipment of the previous T-Rex from the first film. Lost World looks great and as you would expect from a Spielberg film, has great production values. Locations look sublime with the coniferous forests, tall grass and no fencing making the new island look and feel like a true lost world rather than a science experiment.

Finally I personally loved the look of the vehicles. Certainly this is not a film which will disappoint (or unlike the JP III will confuse you)with its look and feel and as stated before has great production values.

All in all, this is a severely underrated film which was always going to be slated if it was not 100% as good as its predecessor. It is not as good as Jurassic Park but the Lost World is definitely a film you can enjoy. Certainly it will entertain you for its 2 hour duration and has always been a personal favourite. So its unsurprising that I was overjoyed to see it move ahead of the disastrous Jurassic III in the IMDb polls. A well deserved result.

An Underrated Sequel
condillon10 June 2015
The Lost World: Jurassic Park continues the story of John Hammond as he summons chaos theorist Ian Malcolm to his home with some startling information, while nearly everything at his Jurassic Park had been destroyed, his engineers happened to have a second site, where other dinosaurs were kept in hiding. It seems the dinosaurs on the second island are alive and well and even breeding; and Hammond wants Malcolm to observe and document the reptiles before Hammond's financiers can get to them. Still directed by Steven Spielberg, we are brought a sequel to one of the most iconic films on the 90's, this sequel still brings the fun, humor and as much as you expect, more Dinosaurs. We are still brought the glimmering sight of the animatronics dinosaurs and some CGI ones as well, but Spielberg really took the time to make these reptilians so fundamental and pure. Besides the dinosaurs, Jeff Goldblum is another extravagant aspect of this film, he makes the film so jocular with his corny charisma, he really was the standing point for me in this. The film I will say does suffer from some pretty cringeworthy moments from some nonsensical dialogue and scenes that will make you sigh from incredulity. One reason I'm really grateful with this film is that we get to know more about the characters we come to know and love from the first film, I just love knowing more about characters that come to grow on you and just have a pleasure participating with there time. The action in this really dominates, it makes the storyline shift more to a side of the film that makes it more compelling than you think it'll be, it gives more fun to a story that you wouldn't expect to variate. Even though there isn't much strong tense moments, there are occasions where it can get pretty nerve racking, from malicious destruction from rapid creatures to violent beings, there is still a lot of excitement to take from and have fun with but at least it isn't dispiriting. Overall, The Lost World may not be as perfect as its predecessor but it's still one of the most fun sequels that we have been given in such a long time. We are still brought corny aspects, Jeff Goldblum, Dinosaurs, humor & even amusing action. TLW certainly delivers another roaring experience!



35 out of 43 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink
8/10
A solid sequel to a classic
KineticSeoul8 June 2015
This is a solid follow up to a classic dinosaur crisis movie. I remember watching this movie at the theater as a kid and enjoying the heck out of it. As a kid I just really found this film to be mesmerizing, exciting and entertaining. Watching it now I still found it to be a enthralling and fun movie to watch. The plot is coherent and the sense of action and excitement with the story is put together very well. There is a lot of good ideas and settings when it comes to the dinosaurs and human interactions and action sequences. It all melds together in the good old fashion Spielberg style. To the point it was thrilling from beginning to end. Most of the characters was coherent with the story and it was nice to see Dr. Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum) as the main lead this time around, since he was a likable character in the first "Jurassic Park" movie. Although the actress that played Ian's daughter was pretty bad when it comes to the acting department, at least in this film. Overall this movie is most definitely a worthwhile watch and it's one of those films I don't get why some reviewers bash on it.

8.4/10
25 out of 30 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

Somehow cheesier than the original, but still entertaining!
dom-lerose-87 June 2015
No matter how cliché the story line gets, or how many suspense sequences that have been done millions of other times in other films appear on screen, you can't deny how much we all love seeing gigantic dinosaurs scare the living daylights out of moviegoers. These ancient and magnificent beasts are brought back to life with the directed craft of no one other than Steven Spielberg, the movie God. With the huge success of "Jurassic Park" in 1993, Spielberg keeps the story going strong with "The Lost World: Jurassic Park." Four years after the failure of Jurassic Park on Isla Nublar, John Hammond reveals to Ian Malcolm that there was another island ("Site B") on which dinosaurs were bred before being transported to Isla Nublar. Left alone since the disaster, the dinosaurs have flourished, and Hammond is anxious that the world see them in their "natural" environment before they are exploited. Yes, there are villains trying to exploit dinosaurs. How cruel. We continue to see the scientific approach to balance the epic chase scenes and the terrifying T-Rex sneaking into tents and eating scientists left and right. Sadly, we don't get the same visual effects as we did in 1993. They seem to be a tad less in quality. However, who cares! They're good enough to scare the heck out of us and wrap our minds in a world where even the ridiculous and dimwitted plot of a squeal is still ridiculously entertaining and a joyous thrill ride full of razor sharp teeth and ear-piercing roars.
41 out of 52 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

9/10
Definitely the second best entry in the Jurassic Park series.
midnighttheater8 July 2015
Very good sequel to Jurassic Park finds Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblem) in a race against time to save his girlfriend(Julianne Moore)and stop Ingen from taking dinosaurs off the island in order to take them state side for their own Jurassic Park. While the wow factor is gone from the first movie, the intensity is up considerably with some of the best action, tension and humor of the series. Goldblem once again commands the screen as the audience guide and it's voice of reason and the special effects manages to even out due the first movie by leaps and bonds. The late Richard Attenborough and Pete Postlethweite rounds out the cast in this very worthy follow up. Its definitely The second best entry in the Jurassic Park series and the best follow up to the original Jurassic Park
66 out of 87 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

5/10
Defending an Underrated Sequel The Lost World: Jurassic Park
ivo-cobra88 August 2015
I still don't get the hate for The Lost World: Jurassic Park and the love for Jurassic Park III? Can Someone explain to me why is III in your opinion so much better than The Lost World: Jurassic Park is? In my opinion III lacks on the story and is not terrible because Steven Spielberg did not Direct the movie but it is terrible because the whole movie makes no damn sense it is too short, it lacks on the story and is really awful to me. It has no character development in III at all and lying to Dr. Grant and trick him on that island is just inhuman and awful. And Why is Jurassic World so much better than The Lost World: Jurassic Park? I am sorry is not better than the second movie. In my opinion is not, but is at least better than Jurassic Lark III is but is not any better over The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997).

An Underrated classic sequel in the series and the last movie directed by Steven Spielberg. I have enjoyed this movie much better than Jurassic Park III and Jurassic World. The movie is very bashed and criticized by their fans of the first film. Just like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom this is the sequel that is very bashed from critics and fans again. This is the first and unfortunately last great sequel to the original Jurassic Park. I think Jeff Goldblum and Julianne Moore did a good job on there performances. The Lost World: Jurassic Park is like Godzilla T-Rex in San Diego. I still love This movie a very underrated science fiction/action sequel film in The Jurassic Park entry franchise. I think for it's sequel it had a good start running. The Lost World: Jurassic Park is loosely based on Michael Crichton's 1995 novel The Lost World.The film won 1 award for Best Effects and Visual Effects.

Things I don't like: The film has a few problems that are really unnecessary and I really hate it:

The daughter of Ian is black in here,which makes to me no sense since Ian is white.

Vince Vaughn was unnecessary to cast him and unneeded. I seriously hate Vince Vaughn,this is a science fiction/Action film not a comedy Vince get this in your head!

Vince stole Roland Tembo bullets for his shot gun and with that action Vince jeopardized and put whole people in the camp in the mortal danger and T-Rex come after them and eat bunch of people cause of him. Roland could shot the T-Rex and save people and because of Vince's action he couldn't. I seriously hate Vince Vaughn for this. I am glad he was cut by the end of the film.

Peter Stormare/Compys sequences from swarm of Compsognathus knock him and killing him were really unnecessary and unneeded etc.), plus it has a sluggish pace and such.

Baby T-Rex in this movie was extremely annoying and his yelling in the trailer and in the car it annoyed me so much and on end of the movie.

Thing's I love in this movie: T-Rex dinosaur in a city San Diego, the chase and eating people in the city are awesome. Ian and Sarah drive to the amphitheater harbor and pick up the infant. They make sure they bait the creature with its infant and drive back to the docks and place the infant in the cargo hold of the ship.Sarah prepares a sedative dart and shoots the T. Rex as Malcolm closes the cargo hold door, trapping the animals inside. Awesome!

Surviving hunters travel through an open field of tall grass. Ajay tries to warn them, shouting "DON'T GO INTO THE LONG GRASS!" but none of them listens and are killed one by one by Velociraptors.

Pete Postlethwaite as Roland Tembo as famous animal hunter was awesome, I seriously I love the actor and his character, He came to Isla Sorna along with his hunting partner, Ajay Sidhu, in hopes of gaining the ultimate trophy and not for the money a male T. Rex.He survived in this movie. A shame a good actor Pete Postlethwaite died 4.years ago and he is not with us anymore.

Jeff Goldblum as Dr. Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park (1993) and Julianne Moore as Dr. Sarah Harding did a good job on there performances.

Returning of John Hammond his nephews Tim and Lex the same actors from Jurassic park (1993). Tim and Lex had a brief cameo but John did had a cameo on the end of the movie.

Daughter Kelly to do some a gymnastics and kick a little raptor trough the window was really a bad ass awesome.

Cgi and the film effects wasn't that bad either they were really good.

John Williams did return as music composer and he did return with his theme music score. Like its predecessor, The Lost World: Jurassic Park was scored by famed composer John Williams (a longtime collaborator with director Steven Spielberg).John Williams didn't write a stereotypical sequel score, but instead developed a wildly different style for the different location, cast, and darker tone of the second Jurassic Park film.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park is a 1997 American science fiction adventure film. It is the second installment in the Jurassic Park film series. A sequel to 1993's Jurassic Park.

I love Jurassic Park (1993) as everyone do but I also love The Lost World: Jurassic Park. NOTE: I still take this movie over Jurassic World and over Jurassic Lark III anytime. Grade: A- 9.5/10



99 out of 137 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink
8/10
Underrated
MF21019 October 2003
My Rating: *** out of ****.

I dont understand all the horrible reviews for this film. Sure not a great film, but definitely a good, entertaining movie. I enjoyed it just as much as the first Jurassic Park.

The Lost World still contains impressive, eye popping effects. These are just as flawless as the CGI as the first Jurassic Parks. There are more dinosaurs and they all look great. The film contains more action than the first and its all exciting. One scene that stands out is the scene with the Raptors in the fields. I love the way Spielberg shot it.

This is not a big acting movie, but its not that bad. Jeff Goldblum is good as Ian Malcolm, but had a little more energy in the first one. Julianne Moore is adequate but looks a bit uncomfortable at times. Vanessa Lee Chester is better than the other kids in the last film. The rest of the acting is adequate.

Many people thought this film was redundant of the first. I wouldnt call it redundant but it is a little bit too familiar in areas. The Lost World takes place in a different area but it is not much different from the first one. However, it is an entertaining movie. The action overshadows the story.

The big problem I have with The Lost World is the ending. It doesnt make sense how The T-Rex got loose. Its also a King Kong Rip-Off. Its visually stunning looking, the TREX doesnt look out of place at all. But it was showing CGI instead of doing something with the story. Nevertheless, even with its flaws The Lost World is entertaining and not worthy of its horrible reviews.



237 out of 342 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink
8/10
Excellent Sequel
Dash_Rendar18 April 2006
Creating a worthy follow-up to a major blockbuster is no easy task. But if all the pieces are in the right place, it is not impossible. Four years after the enormous success of Jurassic Park, Steven Spielberg took control of the director's chair once more in an effort to enhance the franchise and add on to his already spectacular legacy. Did he succeed? In the eyes of most critics, no. However, I applaud Mr. Spielberg for an admirable effort and creating another crowd-pleaser, even if it didn't match up to the high expectations.

On another personal note, I was very happy to see Jeff Goldblum reprise his role as Dr. Ian Malcolm as he has always been my favorite character in the series. Since Malcolm is now more aware of the dangers of John Hammond's activities, his personality is less goofy and more serious this time around compared to his previous adventure.

It took several viewings for me to appreciate this film to its fullest. At first, it seemed weak because it sacrificed the philosophical messages that helped make the first film great to fit in more action. The philosophy is found in one of the key quotes by John Hammond. "Life will find a way." There *is* a point to all the chaos because it is all caused by the humans and their relentless desire to interfere with nature. Every tragic event seen in the film could have been avoided with sensibility and that is the message that is echoed throughout the entire series. Don't attempt to control the uncontrollable.

If there's one thing that makes the film worth watching, it has to be the special effects and the dinosaur animatronics. The infant T-Rex featured in this film is so lifelike that I often had to remind myself that it wasn't a real dinosaur. It was *that* convincing.

Also be on the lookout for Vince Vaughn (before he became the mega-star that he is today) as one of Hammond's researchers and a humorous scene involving a T-Rex in the modern world.



82 out of 113 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink
8/10
The Lost World boasts simply incredible visuals, a lovable cast, a novel idea and a lingering sense of ominous dread. I could never have asked for more in a sequel.
luke-a-mcgowan6 June 2015
Warning: Spoilers
27 out of 34 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

Where do you go when you've created one of the best popcorn thriller films of all time? Many of the haters of The Lost World wouldn't be able to answer that question. Meanwhile, I believe that Spielberg and Koepp found the right way to go about it, and created an delightfully ominous sequel with enough substance that it can proudly stand beside the original.

The Lost World is noticeably different to the first, which Spielberg, Crichton and Koepp deserve credit for. They haven't just remade the first one all over again. They've brought back the stuff we loved - water vibrations, the wonderful score, Jeff Goldblum - and added plenty of new stuff so that this film can stand on its own.

I love the feel of The Lost World. There is some terrific tension, some outstanding drama and I never once felt that I was watching a set - its a real place. Two of the greatest scenes in the film are Sarah on the glass, and the slow ruts carved in the grass as the raptors close in. Its so tense and yet beautiful in its simplicity. My absolute favourite scene are Eddie's attempts to rescue Nick, Sarah and Ian from the trailer. Everything that can go wrong does go wrong. And when the T-Rexes show up to attack Eddie, I groaned in sympathy, for what else could possibly go wrong? Even the jump scares in this movie were effective.

What always set Jurassic Park aside from its popcorn thriller counterparts is its wonderful cast. The original had a beloved trio of characters and even beloved minor characters like Robert Muldoon. This film takes that formula and even manages to improve on it. Kelly isn't as good as Lex and Tim, but the writers made a wise choice in focusing on Ian Malcolm as the film's protagonist, wheras the previous film sidelined him for most of the movie. Of the new additions, I loved Julianne Moore as Sarah, Vince Vaughn was surprisingly believable as Nick, the ever-underrated Richard Schiff is terrific as sardonic Eddie Carr, and Arliss Howard strikes the perfect note as the villainous Peter Ludlow. He isn't diabolical, but rather snobbishly set in his ways, and he fits the film perfectly. But by far the best character in the film was Pete Postlethwaite's Roland Tembo. His opening monologue sold me on him before he even got halfway through it. He's fast-talking, knows what he wants and doesn't suffer fools. I would have loved to see more of him.

The VISUALS of this movie! I never fully appreciated the animatronics of Jurassic Park until I saw this film as well. The highest compliment I can possibly offer is that the dinosaurs look real. I could touch them and I can tell what they'd feel like. A small dinosaur headbutting a car door, and a T-Rex chomping on a traffic light are the two highlights of just how seamlessly the visuals blend with the reality. These days, the dinosaurs would be 100% computer animated, and that is a dreadful shame, because present day films can't capture even a fraction of the wonder of this film.

Yes there are a few flaws. The opening scene raised the stakes so high, until John Hammond reveals that the young girl survived. Not only is this completely unbelievable (when looking at Dieter's fate later in the film) but it makes the opening scene obsolete. They should've just told the story without showing us, because the appeal of Jurassic Park is its ominous tone.

At times, the camera cuts away from crucial moments, but considering that they were limited to what they could create at the time I can forgive it. Dieter's death is the most obvious example - he runs behind a log and gives up the fight instantly so he can die off camera. Yes the gymnastics scene was a bit silly, but I didn't mind in the scheme of things. The T-Rex stomping through San Diego felt both tacked on and required a huge suspension of disbelief (no one hears it stomping around) and there are a few major plot holes (namely, if the T-Rex devoured the crew of the ship, why was it still trapped? A deleted scene was meant to show that raptors did it, but then where did they go?)

But I won't end on a low. The Lost World boasts simply incredible visuals, a lovable cast, a novel idea and a lingering sense of ominous dread. I could never have asked for more in a sequel.

10/10
The first and unfortunately last great sequel to the original Jurassic Park.
coolkeoo28 June 2015
Steven Spielberg's superb follow up to his original dinosaur classic finds Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum) with the help of John Hammond (Richard Attenborough) trying to protect what survives the original Jurassic Park in a sequel that truly lives up to it's name sake. Julianne Moore, Vince Vaughn, Arliss Howard and the great Pete Postlethweite rounds out the cast in a darker, more relentless film that has some of the best action sequences ever filmed for a Jurassic Park movie. While the film is not with out it's faults, this movie is with out a doubt the second best film in the series. Sadly, neither Spielberg and Goldblum return for the next two sequels in the series and the quality of the series definitely take a sharp dive in quality with their departure.

Which is a shame because the Jurassic Park series deserved more than the dumb and badly acted monster movies they have become since Spielberg and Goldblum left the series after this film.
61 out of 83 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

7/10
Pretty Good- Not as Good as Jurassic Park, not as bad as JP3
indy4225 March 2006
Okay, the best Jurassic Park is obviously Jurassic Park. It was the most faithful to the fantastic Michael Critchton books, plus it was well done. As a sequel, The Lost World does just fine. Of course, I'm used to seeing horrible sequels all the time. Jeff Goldblum does a good job reprising his role as Ian Malcolm, and the newcomers of Julianne Moore and Vince Vaughn do well too. The story is a little unbelievable, though. After recently being replaced by his nephew as CEO of InGen, John Hammond(Richard Attenburough) reveals to Ian Malcolm(Goldblum) a site B: A place where dinosaurs run free. He sends him and his girlfriend, Sarah Harding(Moore), technology expert Eddie Carr(Richard Schiff) and photographer Nick Van Owen(Vaughn) to document the dinosaurs, while the official InGen team, led by Roland Tembo(Pete Postlethwaite), tries to capture the T. Rex and transport it to San Diego. As always, there is many bone-crunching deaths, the Special FX are excellent, but the story and plot fall a a bit short. Overall: 7/10
131 out of 189 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink

7/10
Very good sequel
eternalsea11 March 2006
The Lost World is the sequel to the 1993 classic Jurassic Park. Whilst this film is not as good as the original it does stand up well as a sequel. Jeff Goldblum returns as Ian Malcolm. Malcolm has been asked to return to another Island were Dinosaurs have been allowed to live without cages. Malcolm refuses but when he finds out his paleontolagist girlfriend is already there he goes with a team of documentariens to rescue her. However several accidents ensue and they are left stranded on the Island with a second party. The film does not have the all round strength of the first and is far more dependant on thrills and its visual effects this time round. It does however succeed as good entertainment and its better than the third installment in the franchise by quite a bit. The Dino sequences are handled well with the Raptors in the long grass being the highlight of those and quite possibly the entire film. The T-rex features strongly again ( and this time there's two of them) along with a new and nasty little green dinosaur compsagnathus. The acting is'nt Oscar worthy or anything like it but the characters do have some charm and when they are put in danger you care what happens to them which is always a good sign. It does suffer a little from a bloated and anti climatic ending that is funny for about 2 minutes but I wont spoil it for you none the less. I give the Lost World its high rating because it does exactly what it sets out to do, entertain us. So I think its fair we overlook some of its flaws as with any kind of blockbuster sequel they are always there.



98 out of 141 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.
Permalink
9/10
I like it
jann-619 August 2001
I saw this in a theater in 1997 and I thought I liked it. I just saw it again on DVD last night, and I now I know I do. What I can't figure out is why so many people think it's so horrible. After seeing JP III a few weeks ago, I still think The Lost World is better. Of course the original is the best, but The Lost World is packed with suspense, witty dialogue (especially Goldblum's), and of course, the usual great looking dinosaurs. There are a few things I don't like, the gymnastics routine towards the end being at the top of the list. But other than that and a few silly lines, this movie is almost as thrilling as the first. Personally, I don't care if the plot of this one is weak. I've never even really given that any thought. The first 100 minutes or so are loaded with excitement, then the finale with the T-Rex in the city is, if you ask me, played mostly for laughs. Yes it's like Godzilla, and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, but that's the point. It's like those movies but with 21st century (almost) special effects. And it's just plain fun to see this dinosaur stomping through the suburbs, drinking from a swimming pool and, wreaking havoc at gas station minimart. I think if you don't take the San Diego scenes too seriously, and look at it as Spielberg's way of paying homage to *and* poking fun at the Godzilla-type movies, you can appreciate this portion of the movie. Then to wrap it all up with Bernard Shaw from CNN, and an obvious open door to a sequel - what more could you ask for? Well, maybe a better plot as some people seem to be saying, but I think this is a great popcorn movie and it works for me.



193 out of 291 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Sign in to vote.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
TyrannoFan
Hatchling
Hatchling
TyrannoFan

Posts : 68
Points : 1577
Reputation : 9
Join date : 2016-06-08

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2020 7:12 am

I think that's really cherrypicking. Those are the first reviews you see, but I see you've stopped right where they drop sharply. I don't want to make a giant block of text, so I'll just list the review scores following that last one for the first page:

6/10
4/10
8/10
1/10
4/10
9/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
2/10
6/10
4/10
8/10
8/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
5/10
7/10
6/10
10/10
4/10
6/10
6/10
8/10
8/10

Average of 5.7/10. Your reviews averaged 7.9/10. Average of both is 6.8/10. The average rating that IMDB actually lists is 6.6 That's pretty terrible by IMDB standards, but anyway I'm not sure why we're using IMDB as a metric of anything tbh. I can't know for sure, but if I had to guess, the general public probably couldn't give a damn about the quality of a JP movie, they'll watch it if it has high-budget dinosaur action. As a kid, I always enjoyed JP3 more than TLW and found it the most boring to rewatch, but I enjoyed it more than I remembered in a recent rewatch. I think Universal choosing to ignore TLW/JP3 for the most part is pretty typical of big companies approach to things that aren't recieved well: ignore and pretend nothing about it existed, and don't consider any of the usable or good parts. Personally though their decision to do this hasn't really bothered me that much, but I can see why it has bothered others.

_______________
The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  CAQP9hV
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2020 8:59 am

@TyrannoFan wrote:
I think that's really cherrypicking. Those are the first reviews you see, but I see you've stopped right where they drop sharply. I don't want to make a giant block of text, so I'll just list the review scores following that last one for the first page:

6/10
4/10
8/10
1/10
4/10
9/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
2/10
6/10
4/10
8/10
8/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
5/10
7/10
6/10
10/10
4/10
6/10
6/10
8/10
8/10

Average of 5.7/10. Your reviews averaged 7.9/10. Average of both is 6.8/10. The average rating that IMDB actually lists is 6.6 That's pretty terrible by IMDB standards, but anyway I'm not sure why we're using IMDB as a metric of anything tbh. I can't know for sure, but if I had to guess, the general public probably couldn't give a damn about the quality of a JP movie, they'll watch it if it has high-budget dinosaur action. As a kid, I always enjoyed JP3 more than TLW and found it the most boring to rewatch, but I enjoyed it more than I remembered in a recent rewatch. I think Universal choosing to ignore TLW/JP3 for the most part is pretty typical of big companies approach to things that aren't recieved well: ignore and pretend nothing about it existed, and don't consider any of the usable or good parts. Personally though their decision to do this hasn't really bothered me that much, but I can see why it has bothered others.

I did not "cherry pick" anything at all. I sorted reviews by how helpful they were. There were different reviews written by different people for many years.

If you actually read the rest of the reviews you would see most of them more or less say that while TLW is not as good as the original it is still a solid sequel. Many were calling it "underrated" and a few called it "The best film of 1997". No such things are usually said for JP3.

We really need to put an end to this "TLW and JP3 are equally hated" myth. Because it is just flat out not true. Not even close to reality. In terms of general consensus, TLW was never disliked nor hated. It never created controversy nor a backlash nor any strong polarizing feelings. Both the general public and hardcore fans agreed that while it was not as good as the first one it was still a worthy sequel for the most part. No such things can be said for JP3. JP3 was disliked from day one, had one of the most controversial and hated decisions in film history and had the title of "worst film in the franchise" for 14 years (or 17) depending on your feelings of JW and JWFK. No such thing can be said of TLW.

And do not get me wrong. There is nothing wrong if one fan likes JP3 over TLW. There is nothing wrong if one fan likes the Spinosaurus over the T Rex. But to suggest that TLW and JP3 are as equally disliked or had an equal negative reaction or an equal backlash is very very far from reality and there is evidence to show it.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Dr. Wu
Veteran
Veteran
Dr. Wu

Posts : 346
Points : 1901
Reputation : 9
Join date : 2016-06-07
Location : The Hammond Creation Lab

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2020 10:07 am

TLW is definitely loved more than JP3. I never hated JP3 but I always knew it was disliked by majority of the fandom for a long time.

At least Sorna was mentioned in FK and Sorna having no dinosaurs was alluded to by the news stating that Sibo would wipe out the remaining dinosaurs on the planet.

I would love for Sarah Harding to return as well as a funny cameo of the Kirby family in JW:D. I'm not expecting those things to happen but if they did I would love it.

_______________
Avatar created by InGenUity  I approve!
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 04, 2020 5:45 am

And to continue the "TLW has never really been seen in a negative light" Tour...

Chris Stuckmann actually gave TLW an A minus in his review in 2015. He more or less said what I have been saying all along, it is still seen as the best sequel in the franchise, and the "hate" for it is just one big myth in general terms. He had very very postive things to say about it for the most part. And before someone says I am being "biased" or "cherry picking". Take a look at the comments section on his video hundreds of people had overwhelmingly positive things to say about TLW and almost all agreed that when someone tries to claim it is "hated" they have no real basis.


_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Troyal1
Veteran
Veteran
Troyal1

Posts : 1704
Points : 3293
Reputation : 67
Join date : 2016-06-08

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 04, 2020 8:13 pm

@TyrannoFan wrote:
I think that's really cherrypicking. Those are the first reviews you see, but I see you've stopped right where they drop sharply. I don't want to make a giant block of text, so I'll just list the review scores following that last one for the first page:

6/10
4/10
8/10
1/10
4/10
9/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
2/10
6/10
4/10
8/10
8/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
5/10
7/10
6/10
10/10
4/10
6/10
6/10
8/10
8/10

Average of 5.7/10. Your reviews averaged 7.9/10. Average of both is 6.8/10. The average rating that IMDB actually lists is 6.6 That's pretty terrible by IMDB standards, but anyway I'm not sure why we're using IMDB as a metric of anything tbh. I can't know for sure, but if I had to guess, the general public probably couldn't give a damn about the quality of a JP movie, they'll watch it if it has high-budget dinosaur action. As a kid, I always enjoyed JP3 more than TLW and found it the most boring to rewatch, but I enjoyed it more than I remembered in a recent rewatch. I think Universal choosing to ignore TLW/JP3 for the most part is pretty typical of big companies approach to things that aren't recieved well: ignore and pretend nothing about it existed, and don't consider any of the usable or good parts. Personally though their decision to do this hasn't really bothered me that much, but I can see why it has bothered others.

I disagree that 6.6 is terrible by IMDB standards. Jurassic Park just got a 8 a few years ago and now a 8.1

I find that films that are atleast 6 are seen as fairly good at least, but that’s just my open personal experience from movies I’ve seen rated on there.

I also agree that they are ignoring it because they know all that really matter in terms of box office is the animals running after people. No matter what island
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 8:31 am

@Troyal1 wrote:
@TyrannoFan wrote:
I think that's really cherrypicking. Those are the first reviews you see, but I see you've stopped right where they drop sharply. I don't want to make a giant block of text, so I'll just list the review scores following that last one for the first page:

6/10
4/10
8/10
1/10
4/10
9/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
2/10
6/10
4/10
8/10
8/10
8/10
1/10
5/10
5/10
7/10
6/10
10/10
4/10
6/10
6/10
8/10
8/10

Average of 5.7/10. Your reviews averaged 7.9/10. Average of both is 6.8/10. The average rating that IMDB actually lists is 6.6 That's pretty terrible by IMDB standards, but anyway I'm not sure why we're using IMDB as a metric of anything tbh. I can't know for sure, but if I had to guess, the general public probably couldn't give a damn about the quality of a JP movie, they'll watch it if it has high-budget dinosaur action. As a kid, I always enjoyed JP3 more than TLW and found it the most boring to rewatch, but I enjoyed it more than I remembered in a recent rewatch. I think Universal choosing to ignore TLW/JP3 for the most part is pretty typical of big companies approach to things that aren't recieved well: ignore and pretend nothing about it existed, and don't consider any of the usable or good parts. Personally though their decision to do this hasn't really bothered me that much, but I can see why it has bothered others.

I disagree that 6.6 is terrible by IMDB standards. Jurassic Park just got a 8 a few years ago and now a 8.1

I find that films that are atleast 6 are seen as fairly good at least, but that’s just my open personal experience from movies I’ve seen rated on there.

I also agree that they are ignoring it because they know all that really matter in terms of box office is the animals running after people. No matter what island


And plenty of reviews were of people saying "Why are some giving it such low reviews?". Like when you get down to breaking down this film...Did TLW really do anything THAT bad to warrant a review that low? Like I get art is sometimes relative and subjective but when it comes to TLW in the context of the Jurassic series...People seem to be aware that it really did not do anything THAT bad to be considered a "bad" movie or a "disliked" film.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Bionic
Hatchling
Hatchling
Bionic

Posts : 81
Points : 848
Reputation : 5
Join date : 2018-06-12

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 1:00 pm

If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 2:42 pm

@Bionic wrote:
If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.


Wich now leads us to speculate that Colin Trevorrow, Derek Connolly and J.A. Bayona avoid TLW not because they think everyone hates it but just because they themselves just flat out do not care for it. And again I am not saying they are bad people or that they are doiing it in a malicious way. My goal is not to demonize, just to discover the why behind this reasoning that has left so many fans down.

Seriously think about it. If they thought TLW was just as "hated" as JP3 all they had to do was do a Google search and see that this is not the case. They would easily see TLW is actually still considered the best sequel in the franchise by far. So why do they continue to feel this need to avoid it and lessen how important it was? The only logical thought is that they themselves do not care for it and may even really dislike it.  

Because the strange thing is, that both Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom had far more negativity thrown towards them than TLW and yet neither Colin nor Derek nor Bayona feel any need to avoid them or lessen their significance. Yes this may be because those are their creations but still... Even if JW made a lot of money it still had plenty of hate after the initial hype wore off. Many consider it "Just a popcorn flick not to be taken seriously" and JWFK had even more hate thrown at it leaving many fans with questions and others asking for the series to just go extinct. No such things were ever said about TLW.

In fact, now that I think about it, I think in my 23 years as a JP fan...I have never seen anyone who considers JW or JWFK their favorite film of the franchise. But I have seen a decent amount of fans who consider TLW their favorite film in the franchise. Yet TLW is the one that is avoided and JW and JWFK keep getting more nods and callbacks.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Troyal1
Veteran
Veteran
Troyal1

Posts : 1704
Points : 3293
Reputation : 67
Join date : 2016-06-08

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 3:51 pm

@Bionic wrote:
If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.

I still really disagree that 6’s on IMDB are anywhere near asybmal or terrible.

A terrible movie is more in the 5.5 and lower range. And I don’t mean mediocre I mean terrible.

Blair witch a cult classic is 6.5. Child’s play, the first chucky film is 6.6. The Fog(original) also in the 6 range. Ditto for Friday the 13th. That’s just from me browsing horror films on IMDB for the past few minutes.

I think Fallen kingdom is a bad JP film but it has interesting ideas. The cloned little girl and Lockwood manner. Amazing  visuals and cinematography. Some cool action sequences. I can see why it would get a adequate rating on IMDB even if I don’t agree with it
Back to top Go down
dance2nite
Sorna Velociraptor
Sorna Velociraptor
dance2nite

Posts : 656
Points : 2184
Reputation : 26
Join date : 2016-06-08
Location : Melbourne, Australia

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 4:55 pm

FK is a good sci-fi action blockbuster, some fans may not like it, but the GP thought it must have been ok for it too make $1.3B WW.
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 7:45 pm

@Troyal1 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.

I still really disagree that 6’s on IMDB are anywhere near asybmal or terrible.

A terrible movie is more in the 5.5 and lower range. And I don’t mean mediocre I mean terrible.

Blair witch a cult classic is 6.5. Child’s play, the first chucky film is 6.6. The Fog(original) also in the 6 range. Ditto for Friday the 13th. That’s just from me browsing horror films on IMDB for the past few minutes.


6.6 is still above average. TLW is not even close to being seen as a "bad" movie at all. In fact when you Google The Lost World it says 89% of Google users like this film. I think that is not only very far from a "hated" movie but also very close to being a loved movie.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Troyal1
Veteran
Veteran
Troyal1

Posts : 1704
Points : 3293
Reputation : 67
Join date : 2016-06-08

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 05, 2020 10:35 pm

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.

I still really disagree that 6’s on IMDB are anywhere near asybmal or terrible.

A terrible movie is more in the 5.5 and lower range. And I don’t mean mediocre I mean terrible.

Blair witch a cult classic is 6.5. Child’s play, the first chucky film is 6.6. The Fog(original) also in the 6 range. Ditto for Friday the 13th. That’s just from me browsing horror films on IMDB for the past few minutes.


6.6 is still above average. TLW is not even close to being seen as a "bad" movie at all. In fact when you Google The Lost World it says 89% of Google users like this film. I think that is not only very far from a "hated" movie but also very close to being a loved movie.

There’s a lot of vocal people out there who will only accept the original as good and everything else is trash to them.

Obviously if that’s their opinion then that’s their opinion and I respect it, but I think some people have unrealistic expectations for sequels(atleast on some level).

Back to top Go down
Bionic
Hatchling
Hatchling
Bionic

Posts : 81
Points : 848
Reputation : 5
Join date : 2018-06-12

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 2:38 am

Quote :
FK is a good sci-fi action blockbuster, some fans may not like it, but the GP thought it must have been ok for it too make $1.3B WW.
It's not, sorry but it really isn't, the writing is terrible, like I said nobody I know (and I know a lot of people) genuinly enjoyed the movie. Or look up the dozens of negative reviews on youtube. It just shows people will flock to the theater because it is a Jurassic movie and has dinosaurs in it, it also came off the hype of the previous movie. Just because it made bank it does not equal it being a good movie. How much money did The Last Jedi make and how many people have said it has killed Star Wars for them? And just so you know trash like Transformers 4 or Fast & Furious 8 has also grossed over a billion so that doesn't say much at all.
Back to top Go down
#TRexSpinorematch
Ankylosaurus
Ankylosaurus
#TRexSpinorematch

Posts : 412
Points : 1591
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2017-05-28

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 6:11 am

@Troyal1 wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
@Bionic wrote:
If an average rating of 6.6 on IMDB is terrible than what about Fallen Kingdom and it's abysmal rating of 6.2 (or JP3 at 5.9)? Seeing how TLW is for many people still the best sequel it leaves you scratching your head when Colin does everything possible to ignore it. He seems to be a bit out of touch when he writes embarrassing trash like Fallen Kingdom (so far every single person I have talked to was disappointed by it, calling it everything from mediocre to god-awful. One friend who saw it recently almost thought that it was supposed to be a parody of the franchise and couldn't believe how bad and ridiculous it was) and even brings back two of the most hated and terribly written characters (Zia and Franklin) for Dominion yet he can't even explain on-screen what has happened to Isla Sorna and all the species that lived there. You know, that place that was established as the breeding ground in the second movie directed by Spielberg.

I still really disagree that 6’s on IMDB are anywhere near asybmal or terrible.

A terrible movie is more in the 5.5 and lower range. And I don’t mean mediocre I mean terrible.

Blair witch a cult classic is 6.5. Child’s play, the first chucky film is 6.6. The Fog(original) also in the 6 range. Ditto for Friday the 13th. That’s just from me browsing horror films on IMDB for the past few minutes.


6.6 is still above average. TLW is not even close to being seen as a "bad" movie at all. In fact when you Google The Lost World it says 89% of Google users like this film. I think that is not only very far from a "hated" movie but also very close to being a loved movie.

There’s a lot of vocal people out there who will only accept the original as good and everything else is trash to them.

Obviously if that’s their opinion then that’s their opinion and I respect it, but I think some people have unrealistic expectations for sequels(atleast on some level).



Same thing happened with the Star Wars prequels for years from 2006 to 2015 quite a few youtubers and news articles kept saying "everybody hated them" but when you actually ask the fandom, you can clearly see that an entire generation grew up loving them and prequel Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Maul are among 2 of the most popular characters in the entire franchise.

_______________
Link to the T Rex Spinosaurus rematch in Jurassic World 3 petition that Colin Trevorrow noted. We hope everyone joins and help us share it.

https://www.facebook.com/Petition-to-have-a-T-Rex-Spinosaurus-rematch-in-Jurassic-World-2-194141920665797/
Back to top Go down
Dr. Wu
Veteran
Veteran
Dr. Wu

Posts : 346
Points : 1901
Reputation : 9
Join date : 2016-06-07
Location : The Hammond Creation Lab

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 1:37 pm

@Bionic wrote:
Quote :
FK is a good sci-fi action blockbuster, some fans may not like it, but the GP thought it must have been ok for it too make $1.3B WW.
It's not, sorry but it really isn't, the writing is terrible, like I said nobody I know (and I know a lot of people) genuinly enjoyed the movie. Or look up the dozens of negative reviews on youtube. It just shows people will flock to the theater because it is a Jurassic movie and has dinosaurs in it, it also came off the hype of the previous movie. Just because it made bank it does not equal it being a good movie. How much money did The Last Jedi make and how many people have said it has killed Star Wars for them? And just so you know trash like Transformers 4 or Fast & Furious 8 has also grossed over a billion so that doesn't say much at all.

Klayton Fioriti and I disagree with that completely. Freaking love FK and most fans do like it. I don't care what critics say about it as when JP was released the majority of good reviews only praised the special effects and criticized the characters but look at how many fans love those characters.

_______________
Avatar created by InGenUity  I approve!
Back to top Go down
Bionic
Hatchling
Hatchling
Bionic

Posts : 81
Points : 848
Reputation : 5
Join date : 2018-06-12

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 5:19 pm

Quote :
Klayton Fioriti and I disagree with that completely. Freaking love FK and most fans do like it. I don't care what critics say about it as when JP was released the majority of good reviews only praised the special effects and criticized the characters but look at how many fans love those characters.
Klayton took the time to point out the the flaws of JP3 yet he comepletely ignored the many flaws of of FK, you really think the many negative reviews from both critics and general audiences came out of nowhere? And if critics loved it you would use that as an argument for the movie, you only say you don't care because it got trashed left and right. And most fans don't like it, don't lie to yourself. My friends and acquaintances all love the first film and see either TLW or JW as the best sequel but absolutely none of them like FK. Which just so happens to be the general consensus of critics and general audiences too.
If 98 people out of 100 say it was bad or disappointing and point out all the flaws and the glaring weaknesses of the script and you and Klayton praise the hell out of it by ignoring the flaws..well then it still clearly hints to it being a rather trashy film. I'm glad for you that you can enjoy it but that does not mean it's a good film.


Last edited by Bionic on Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
dance2nite
Sorna Velociraptor
Sorna Velociraptor
dance2nite

Posts : 656
Points : 2184
Reputation : 26
Join date : 2016-06-08
Location : Melbourne, Australia

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 5:32 pm

FK >>>> JW in every way, FK has better writing, directing, acting, cinematography, special effects, practical effects, tone etc.
Back to top Go down
Bionic
Hatchling
Hatchling
Bionic

Posts : 81
Points : 848
Reputation : 5
Join date : 2018-06-12

The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2020 5:52 pm

FK's writing and acting is definitely not better and it's boring whereas JW has actual suspense. The writing is horrendous and embarrassing (the dialogue in the bar scene alone is cringe inducing), the pacing is totally off and there are about 5 or 6 times where the plot has reached a creative deadend and uses the Trex or Blue in dinosaur ex machina mode jumping into the shot out of nowhere to save the protagonists and Owen is now apparently a superhuman who can do and survive everything, but not because it makes any sense but because Colin forced the silly story forward. The comedy is unfunny and out of place since it kills any potential for suspense, Justice Smith was weak, Chris Pratt looked bored at times, Rafe Spall was also struggling to sell his cartoonish character and BD Wong didn't deliver his lines convincingly. Just to name a few.


Last edited by Bionic on Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Empty
PostSubject: Re: The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World    The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World  Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
The Lost World, Jurassic Park 3 and Sorna's treatment by Jurassic World
Back to top 
Page 1 of 4Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 Similar topics
-
» The Lost World
» Jurassic Park (The Novel)
» Steam Traction World Gathering - 29th & 30th June 2013 - Banbury Rally
» Lost an EFFIN center cap just now.
» The Lost Boy

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Jurassic Mainframe :: The Franchise :: Film Universe-
Jump to: