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What's Your Favorite JP Film?
Jurassic Park
72%
 72% [ 41 ]
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
26%
 26% [ 15 ]
Jurassic Park 3
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Jurassic World
2%
 2% [ 1 ]
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:45 pm

Since people seem to be sharing revised ratings of the JP series, I thought I would pitch in with an update on how I would rank the series:

Jurassic Park - 10/10

The Lost World - 8/10

Jurassic World - 7.5/10

Jurassic Park 3 - 4/10

Admittedly, not the most the most radical of updates. TLW gets promoted to second place, thanks to finding new things to respect and enjoy in it on recent viewing, and JW assumes the dubious honour of "third best/second worst" in the franchise. I watched the film recently, and while I did still like it quite a bit my attention wasn't as thoroughly held as it was before. It did decline somewhat in my mind. If anything, JW had the same "bigger, badder, more teeth" premise just executed with more build-up and less hamfisted awkwardness (IMO). Had the Spinosaurus been explained, depicted and dealt with as the I. rex was we would have less problems with JP3 on the whole. And at least it had it's themes of escalation, hubris and descent into chaos firmly on display, and the new predator played into that. What also keeps it from dropping to a 6 or a 5 is the fact that I don't find Grey annoying because I see a lot of my young self in him and have had reason to connect with his struggles in recent months. Can't say the same about Zach, though. But it would take a lot for me to prefer JP3 over Jurassic World on any day.

For me, this isn't quite a Superman Returns scenario in which the film not only disappointed on initial impression but got worse over each successive viewing. Not to veer a topic off course, but that was a film that clearly wanted to be Richard Donner's Superman but didn't understand that film one bit beyond nostalgic call-backs. After it was clear that the new Superman with Brandon Routh wasn't going anywhere, it only added to the feeling that Bryan Singer and Warner Bros had screwed up launching Superman for a new generation (to be clear, I'd rather not bring the DCEU into this because that's for another discussion entirely, and Superman Returns was meant as a sequel to the first two Christopher Reeve films).

To conclude, is Jurassic World the film we all waited 14 years to see? Perhaps not so, at least not for everyone. But is it a better version than the films we could have gotten in that time period? I will stand firmly by that, we almost had Homocraptors and John Sayles after all. What will be interesting is if the upcoming Jurassic sequel either somehow affect its predecessor retroactively for better or worse while also being a more well-rounded and superior movie.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Sun May 28, 2017 9:28 am

I Love JP and TLW almost the same but I gave my vote to TLW since it gets so much hatred on the internet...

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Sun May 28, 2017 9:30 am

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
I Love JP and TLW almost the same but I gave my vote to TLW since it gets so much hatred on the internet...

I've actually seen it get far more love as time as gone by.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Sun May 28, 2017 9:38 am

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
I Love JP and TLW almost the same but I gave my vote to TLW since it gets so much hatred on the internet...

I've actually seen it get far more love as time as gone by.

So glad to hear that since the internet acts like it was this disaster of a movie that no one really ever cared for.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Sun May 28, 2017 9:43 am

#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
I Love JP and TLW almost the same but I gave my vote to TLW since it gets so much hatred on the internet...

I've actually seen it get far more love as time as gone by.

So glad to hear that since the internet acts like it was this disaster of a movie that no one really ever cared for.

I think that's more of the influence of the Nostalgia Critic and the Channel Awesome fan groups that really blow the whole thing out of proportion. They tend to be a very aggravating group if you happen to be someone who likes any of the JP sequels. Everyone loves the first movie, naturally not everyone loves (or even likes) the sequels or really get invested in the franchise as a whole as we do. Even though the film's 20th anniversary just came by, nobody was celebrating it or dedicating articles to it the same way that many JP fans naturally did. But it's still a start; I believe that over time there will be a gradual revision of opinions on TLW.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Sun May 28, 2017 10:07 am

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
#TRexSpinorematch wrote:
I Love JP and TLW almost the same but I gave my vote to TLW since it gets so much hatred on the internet...

I've actually seen it get far more love as time as gone by.

So glad to hear that since the internet acts like it was this disaster of a movie that no one really ever cared for.

I think that's more of the influence of the Nostalgia Critic and the Channel Awesome fan groups that really blow the whole thing out of proportion. They tend to be a very aggravating group if you happen to be someone who likes any of the JP sequels. Everyone loves the first movie, naturally not everyone loves (or even likes) the sequels or really get invested in the franchise as a whole as we do. Even though the film's 20th anniversary just came by, nobody was celebrating it or dedicating articles to it the same way that many JP fans naturally did. But it's still a start; I believe that over time there will be a gradual revision of opinions on TLW.

And I have no problem if someone honestly feels it was a bad film but what I do hate is the entire internet accepting it as fact that nobody cares for this movie when both hardcore and casual fans at the very least like it

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Favorite JP Film?   Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:27 pm

Jurassic Park stands a head above the rest. Of them all, it’s the only one I’d put on a “100 movies to see before you die” list. It’s also the only one with thoroughly good dialogue, although there are a couple jokes that land like a wet fart. A truly excellent film.

Jurassic World is like JP’s dumber, louder cousin. The dialogue is barely passable, it has tonal ADD, and it doesn’t live up to the accuracy precedent set by JP and TLW (i was triggered when the ankylosaurus hit the Indominus in the jaw and nothing happened). But it’s entertaining and generally pretty effective. A good movie that I feel is underrated.

The Lost World is that movie I want to like, but just can’t get into. The script wants us to root for a bunch of idiots, including a supposed wildlife expert who leaves a bloody shirt and a bunch of snacks all over the tent. The dialogue is actually a quite a bit worse than JW, but not generally bad. The third act chickens out, and instead of ending with a moody, creepy set piece in the village, we get San Diego and the nonsensical boat. Still, it has the strongest aesthetic of the series. A mediocre film.

JP3 is the trashy one, the only movie that doesn’t feel like it was made with dignity. With its silver, saggy redesigns and completely different jungle, it doesn’t really feel like a JP movie at times. This is the only one where the dinosaurs act nonsensically throughout (though JW showed a flash of this when the pterosaurs attacked everyone for no reason), but on the plus side, I found the characters less outrageously annoying than the likes of Nick Owen and Sarah Harding (Novel Harding is a complete badass, though). After all, the Kirbys are actually supposed to be idiots, and the script seems aware of that. Being shorter, faster-paced, and yes, a bit dumber than TLW, JP3 is less artfully crafted, but a movie I would rather sit through than TLW.
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