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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:33 pm

Dracula Untold won't exist in Universal Studios Monsterverse.

Not a big surprise considering how bad it did.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:40 pm

It was always a fool's hope anyway, I may have enjoyed Dracula Untold, but it's not exactly the best vampire movie and its mediocre box office and negative reviews cooled off any interest people had in a shared monsters universe at the time. And it's doubly a shame because I think Luke Evans was the best thing in that movie.



Now this is very interesting, people are really clinging onto The Mummy from 1999 like it's a classic. While I love that film for various reasons; it's cast, action, adventure, humour and score, but it was already a remake of the 1932 Universal classic. And The Mummy Returns was pretty flawed despite the returning cast and fun setpieces, and the less said about the third one the better. As for the trailer itself, not really feeling this one. It looks like Mission: Impossible 6 with Ethan Hunt doing some Egyptology in his spare time. Lord knows Universal Studios want their own Marvel or DC style cinematic universe, so this makes more sense than say a Jurassic Park Cinematic Universe. Also that scream was the most unintentionally hilarious noise I've heard this year. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:14 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:51 pm

Why do people keep giving Greg Berlanti film projects?? I mean, seriously, I know he's a good TV producer, but he has not translated over to film as writer or producer!! Look at Green Lantern, Wrath of the Titans or last year's Pan, all of them panned across the board, and none of them faring any better than the DCEU's most recent superhero crop. He must have one hell of an agent to negotiate deals like these, lucky b*stard. Also, if you're a fan of Little Shop of Horrors like I am, be very afraid...

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:54 pm

is that the guy who's getting a cabinet position for some ungodly reason?

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:46 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:22 pm

Here are the 3 new Aliens that will be appearing in Alien: Covenant.

And yes, it includes the Neomorph which was already shown/talked about earlier.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:15 pm

Pretty sure Tales is on hold because of rights issues, not canned just quite yet.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:43 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:07 pm

I admit this is a bit of a stretch, but I guess this news does fit here.

Goosebumps 2 will come out on Jan 26, 2018.

Was the original movie even that good enough to merit this in the first place?

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:24 pm

Yes and it made Sony money.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:29 pm

All I've heard about it was that it was either barely average or barely above average.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:59 pm

Being good? What does that have anything to do with making sequels, prequels, reboots and remakes?
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:24 pm

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Being good? What does that have anything to do with making sequels, prequels, reboots and remakes?

Uh...Because the better a movie is then higher the chance of getting a sequel/prequel. Not only that, but the better something is, the more likely it gets rebooted when the sequels to the original one go horribly bad.

The worse a movie is, the less likely it is for those things to happen.

It's only common sense in Hollywood, you know.
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:33 pm

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Being good? What does that have anything to do with making sequels, prequels, reboots and remakes?

The more profitable and popular the movie is, the higher chance it gets of expanding it's universe so to speak? It's how franchises have worked for decades.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:51 pm

We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm

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We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.

But there have been plenty of movies that haven't. Street Fighter, Godzilla 1998, Wolverine: Origins(which has been semi-retconned out of existence), and The Last Airbender are all wonderful examples of profitable movies that never got a sequel because they were just really that bad and got a lot of stuff wrong. They are not like the Transformers movies where people know what they are getting and at least get some things right.
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:25 pm

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We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.

But there have been plenty of movies that haven't.  Street Fighter, Godzilla 1998, Wolverine: Origins(which has been semi-retconned out of existence), and The Last Airbender are all wonderful examples of profitable movies that never got a sequel because they were just really that bad and got a lot of stuff wrong. They are not like the Transformers movies where people know what they are getting and at least get some things right.

Godzilla was disappointment to box office expectations and only grossed 9th highest in US in 1998. Emmerich also didn't want to continue with the sequel because there would have been severe budget cuts

Shyamalan might still make Airbender 2. The other two I don't know/care enough to comment on. But anyway there are exceptions to every rule.

With generic horror movies that do 'just fine' in the box office it's easy to keep pulling out sequels even if they were crap. Especially if they were quickly produced to begin with. I think that new cheap january scare trash "Bye Bye Man" or whatever it's called will do just that
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:57 pm

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We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.

But there have been plenty of movies that haven't.  Street Fighter, Godzilla 1998, Wolverine: Origins(which has been semi-retconned out of existence), and The Last Airbender are all wonderful examples of profitable movies that never got a sequel because they were just really that bad and got a lot of stuff wrong. They are not like the Transformers movies where people know what they are getting and at least get some things right.

Godzilla was disappointment to box office expectations and only grossed 9th highest in US in 1998. Emmerich also didn't want to continue with the sequel because there would have been severe budget cuts

Shyamalan might still make Airbender 2. The other two I don't know/care enough to comment on. But anyway there are exceptions to every rule.

With generic horror movies that do 'just fine' in the box office it's easy to keep pulling out sequels even if they were crap. Especially if they were quickly produced to begin with. I think that new cheap january scare trash "Bye Bye Man" or whatever it's called will do just that

Ah...No.

Godzilla 1998 was rejected by the GA, fans, and critics. The reception was so bad, that it was a huge reason why the sequel never happened. That movie is the main reason Emmerich was never trusted with such a big name franchise ever again. The 'budget cuts' is just a lame excuse.

As for Shyamalan, he's still trying to build up his career back to what it was. Even though he will do it, TLA 2, will never happen for the same reasons way the sequel to Godzilla 1998 never did. Besides, do you really think Paramount is happy to have one of the worst movies of all time being put in it? I don't. If anything else the sheer backlash forced them to cancel any plans for a sequel like Super Mario Bros. forced Nintendo to cancel the planned Metroid movie.

No offense. But you really are downplaying the role that fans have on Hollywood/movies as a whole. Do you even know how the business even works in Hollywood?
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We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.

But there have been plenty of movies that haven't.  Street Fighter, Godzilla 1998, Wolverine: Origins(which has been semi-retconned out of existence), and The Last Airbender are all wonderful examples of profitable movies that never got a sequel because they were just really that bad and got a lot of stuff wrong. They are not like the Transformers movies where people know what they are getting and at least get some things right.

Godzilla was disappointment to box office expectations and only grossed 9th highest in US in 1998. Emmerich also didn't want to continue with the sequel because there would have been severe budget cuts

Shyamalan might still make Airbender 2. The other two I don't know/care enough to comment on. But anyway there are exceptions to every rule.

With generic horror movies that do 'just fine' in the box office it's easy to keep pulling out sequels even if they were crap. Especially if they were quickly produced to begin with. I think that new cheap january scare trash "Bye Bye Man" or whatever it's called will do just that

Ah...No.

Godzilla 1998 was rejected by the GA, fans, and critics. The reception was so bad, that it was a huge reason why the sequel never happened. That movie is the main reason Emmerich was never trusted with such a big name franchise ever again. The 'budget cuts' is just a lame excuse.

As for Shyamalan, he's still trying to build up his career back to what it was. Even though he will do it, TLA 2, will never happen for the same reasons way the sequel to Godzilla 1998 never did. Besides, do you really think Paramount is happy to have one of the worst movies of all time being put in it? I don't. If anything else the sheer backlash forced them to cancel any plans for a sequel like Super Mario Bros. forced Nintendo to cancel the planned Metroid movie.

No offense. But you really are downplaying the role that fans have on Hollywood/movies as a whole. Do you even know how the business even works in Hollywood?

Not the 'no offense' stuff again. The business comment reminds me of "do you understand life" quotes.

Would it really help if I wrote 10 paragraphs explaining it, just like in the JW subjects... no, neither of us would buy what the other side is attempting to argument and ultimately the 'discussion' would just dry out. So why bother. Better just let it go, both of us
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:16 pm

@Mistral wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
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We all know there have been trillion movies universally accepted as garbage but that still made **** of money. That's all what matters. Not the quality. Altough obviously acclaim doesn't hurt.

But there have been plenty of movies that haven't.  Street Fighter, Godzilla 1998, Wolverine: Origins(which has been semi-retconned out of existence), and The Last Airbender are all wonderful examples of profitable movies that never got a sequel because they were just really that bad and got a lot of stuff wrong. They are not like the Transformers movies where people know what they are getting and at least get some things right.

Godzilla was disappointment to box office expectations and only grossed 9th highest in US in 1998. Emmerich also didn't want to continue with the sequel because there would have been severe budget cuts

Shyamalan might still make Airbender 2. The other two I don't know/care enough to comment on. But anyway there are exceptions to every rule.

With generic horror movies that do 'just fine' in the box office it's easy to keep pulling out sequels even if they were crap. Especially if they were quickly produced to begin with. I think that new cheap january scare trash "Bye Bye Man" or whatever it's called will do just that

A. Godzilla was a disappointment because it wasnt Godzilla. How do you know there would of been severe budget cuts? I enjoyed Godzilla '98 for what it's worth but they wouldnt of DECREASED the budget if the first movie would of been a success. That's just stupid.

B. Most generic horror movies dont even make it to theaters, they go straight to DVD so that's why it's so easy to put out sequel after sequel. Also have you seen The Bye Bye Man yet? No?

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:23 pm


http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/13/business/fi-40322

"They wanted to tailor it budget-wise, so it didn't make sense for us creatively," said Devlin, who along with his co-writer-director partner Emmerich announced months ago that they would not be involved in any "Godzilla" sequels at Sony.


Whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:29 pm

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http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/13/business/fi-40322

"They wanted to tailor it budget-wise, so it didn't make sense for us creatively," said Devlin, who along with his co-writer-director partner Emmerich announced months ago that they would not be involved in any "Godzilla" sequels at Sony.


Whatever.

But how do you know that was just a smokescreen and that Sony didn't want to tell them the real reason? Even Dean Devlin himself admitted that he botched it on the 1998 movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:38 pm

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http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/13/business/fi-40322

"They wanted to tailor it budget-wise, so it didn't make sense for us creatively," said Devlin, who along with his co-writer-director partner Emmerich announced months ago that they would not be involved in any "Godzilla" sequels at Sony.


Whatever.

But how do you know that was just a smokescreen and that Sony didn't want to tell them the real reason? Even Dean Devlin himself admitted that he botched it on the 1998 movie.

If they had produced more sequels and made loads of money I doubt he had said that, even if the films itself were trash, as at least the american conquest would not have died where it started

Now, of course they could've invented the budget thing as excuse, just like for example when Trevorrow and co said they couldn't write Grant & Malcolm into the new JP films because it's supposedly impossible to integrate them in and shiz. But I guess we never know. Godzilla 98 was horribly received film but and it didn't help, yes, but it wasn't the cash cow they thought it was gonna be either and that likely factored first and foremost
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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:26 pm

Rhedo and Mistral, we're pretty lenient around here these days, but if you ant to discuss this, take it to the General Movies thread, or take it to PMs if its going to get heated. We're pretty far off the topic here.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:15 am

^You're right, we did derail this thread. Sorry about that.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:07 pm

M. Night Shyamalan's recent movie, Split, is number 1 at the box office with over $40 million dollars.

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PostSubject: Re: The Horror Movie Thread   Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:20 pm

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M. Night Shyamalan's recent movie, Split, is number 1 at the box office with over $40 million dollars.

Heard it was good, especially if you are a fan of
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