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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:45 am


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:50 pm

I really don't understand the rationale of a live action Winnie The Pooh movie, especially one that basically lifts the plot from Hook rather blatantly and without shame. Of all the Disney movies that do lend themselves to a cinematic live action experience, like The Black Cauldron, Peter Pan, Aladdin and Mulan, a film about one of Disney's most distinctly animated characters that skews more towards kids does not strike me as something that would look or feel right in live action.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:24 am


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:55 pm

Original Pirates of the Caribbean star returns for latest sequel
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Seemingly needing a payday, Keira Knightley is reportedly returning for the next “Pirates of the Caribbean” movie.

As previously reported, her franchise screen-squeeze Orlando Bloom is also returning for Disney’s “Pirates of the Caribbean : Dead Men Tell No Tales”.

The catch? Knightley’s Elizabeth Swann won’t appear until a post-credits scene – setting up her appearance in the already greenlit sixth “Pirates” film. Bloom’s Will Turner, however, will have a more substantial presence in this film.

Joining Johnny Depp in the Aussie-shot tentpole, out May 26, are Kevin McNally, Stephen Graham, Kaya Scodelario, Brenton Thwaites, Golshifteh Farahani and Paul McCartney.Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg direct.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:28 pm

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Original Pirates of the Caribbean star returns for latest sequel
http://moviehole.net/2016111485original-pirates-caribbean-star-returns-latest-sequel

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Seemingly needing a payday, Keira Knightley is reportedly returning for the next “Pirates of the Caribbean” movie.

As previously reported, her franchise screen-squeeze Orlando Bloom is also returning for Disney’s “Pirates of the Caribbean : Dead Men Tell No Tales”.

The catch? Knightley’s Elizabeth Swann won’t appear until a post-credits scene – setting up her appearance in the already greenlit sixth “Pirates” film. Bloom’s Will Turner, however, will have a more substantial presence in this film.

Joining Johnny Depp in the Aussie-shot tentpole, out May 26, are Kevin McNally, Stephen Graham, Kaya Scodelario, Brenton Thwaites, Golshifteh Farahani and Paul McCartney.Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg direct.

The fifth movie hasn't even been out yet, and a 6th movie has already been greenlit?! I get that Disney is back in 'golden age' mode again and that they can afford some movies not doing well, but even so, this seems slightly reckless.

Scarlett Johansson wants to be a Disney princess.

Even though she said that she's wanted to do this for about 20 years, I can't help but wonder if this is Plan B in case we never get a Black Widow movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:27 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:52 am

In addition to Will Smith, we also have Tom Hanks being courted for a live action Disney remake.... and one I've not been on board with for any length of time.

Tom Hanks being offered a villain role in live-action Dumbo

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:58 pm

I can see Tom Hanks as a villain, but I do with a lot of difficulty. Needless to say, I really don't think a Dumbo movie is the best choice for him to a villain. I just don't see him working well in that role in that movie.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:41 pm

yeah, Dumbo is really one of those no-antagonist stories. that said, if Hanks is cast as a villain in a Dumbo remake, i'd imagine he'll be the circus ringleader in order to draw attention to animal cruelty in circuses since our perception of them has changed dramatically since the early '40s

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:44 pm

I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:20 am

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I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.

Considering it's live action.....

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:27 am

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I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.

Considering it's live action.....

I guess the only reason why people would want to see it is because they want to see a Dumbo movie without any debatable form of racism (the crows) that the first movie had.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:13 pm

personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:22 pm

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personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!

Exactly this!!

Every time someone who claims to know better calls Dumbo out on account of the crows' "racism", I always remind them that they're the ones who actually helped Dumbo to learn to fly, and before that they apologized to Dumbo and Timothy for their earlier teasing, and were the first group of characters to do so in the movie. But now, I suspect Disney thinks they can write out the crows and replace them with... I don't know, maybe a sympathetic human family who befriends the little elephant. Perhaps that is where Will Smith's character and his yet un-cast family come in.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:52 pm

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personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!

Exactly this!!

Every time someone who claims to know better calls Dumbo out on account of the crows' "racism", I always remind them that they're the ones who actually helped Dumbo to learn to fly, and before that they apologized to Dumbo and Timothy for their earlier teasing, and were the first group of characters to do so in the movie. But now, I suspect Disney thinks they can write out the crows and replace them with... I don't know, maybe a sympathetic human family who befriends the little elephant. Perhaps that is where Will Smith's character and his yet un-cast family come in.

I never thought of those things before. To be fair, even though I saw Dumbo last year, it didn't really click with me. I guess I was never a big fan of the movie I was a kid.

There is a petition to reboot the 1990's "Dinosaurs" TV show.

I was never a fan of this when I was growing up in the 90's. I only saw a few episodes and when I finally did. I was so into Jurassic Park, dinosaur books, and was starting to get into Godzilla that I never really felt anything with this show. TBH, that's part of the reason why I wasn't a big fan of the original 'Land Before Time' movie. That and the VHS tape it was recorded on was messed up.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:46 pm

yeah, i never got the "possible" racist connection with the crows, either--it had to be pointed out to me, presumably (i can't remember who) by someone who already had an agenda against Disney to begin with. what really pisses me off about it is people pointing to Dumbo like it's indicative of the entire history of Disney. yes, they've had their fair share of controversial moments, including through to our lifetimes (one word: Frollo) but it's not their modus operandi and to say that something from fuckin' 1941 is indicative of Disney as a whole today--or even at any other time in its history, for that matter--is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick

and Rhedo, you should definitely give the original Dinosaurs a chance if you get the opportunity to do so--it's really quite good, and alot of the topical humor and messages in it still hold up today

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:06 pm

I've never even heard of that Dinosaurs TV show. But then again the chances of catching it on TV in 90's here was pretty non existent, and afterwards I haven't been particularly interested.

Even Dino Riders I only saw by miracle when someone had rare dubbed VHS of it. That series had amazing pilot and all the other episodes were crap. But it was all just to try to sell you toys so whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:54 pm

like i said, you should check it out if you get the chance. it was made by Jim Henson's team, the same people who made the Muppets (Henson himself was working on it, but he passed away just before it aired and the first episode is dedicated to him)

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:05 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:50 pm

I'm open to the idea of a Zootopia sequel, but I have to wonder what direction they will take (if indeed it can get much darker) and whether we will see other groups of animals like birds and reptiles, maybe even apes and monkeys, since they were intentionally omitted from the film.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:19 pm

Dinosaurs was on ABC and it was on friday nights if I remember correctly.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:22 pm

Zootopia 2 being confirmed (along with rumors of sequels for Frozen and Wreck-It Ralph that i've heard) also has interesting implications depending on how they handle it. after Rescuers Down Under, their first sequel movie, bombed at the box office there was basically an executive decision to not spend more money than needed on sequels in order to turn a profit even if it did poorly, which is where all those cut-rate direct-to-video sequels which look more like TV cartoons came from, and then they stopped making them entirely iirc. this could very well be a sign of Disney trying out theatrical sequels again.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:43 pm

Wreck It Ralph 2 was confirmed a few months ago

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:54 pm

didn't know that Wink

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:01 pm

Well this is awkward Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:58 pm

Wanna get away?

Southwest is offering low fares to leave this thread and go to a less awkward one one-way for one low rate.


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:34 am

@Dead2009 wrote:
Well this is awkward Razz

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holy sh*t, that is embarassing XDDDDDD i'd completely forgotten about that! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:28 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:46 pm

finally saw Finding Dory just the other day. it was on Netflix. i've also noticed that Zootopia, the Jungle Book remake, and Captain America: Civil War were added relatively recently with a pretty quick turnaround to when they were released theatrically, so i wonder if this is a sign of a new pattern for Disney (and Disney-affiliated) movies being put on Netflix?

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