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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:10 pm

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North Korea successfully test-launched an ICBM that has the range to hit Alaska and maybe Hawaii.

Absolutely bloody terrifying...  pale

This more than anything gives me a swelling pit of dread that all out war will be upon us. My sympathies go out to the people of those regions, this news must have cast a dark pall over them.

Indeed. Young, spoiled, psychopathic, ruthless, and-at best-only half sane...Not a good mix with atomic weapons and ICBM's.

The American response is having 2 B-1 Lancer bombers fly near the North Korean border and testing their THAAD missile defense systems.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:45 pm


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:32 pm


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:31 pm

They more than likely had someone ready and waiting to take over as soon as that happened.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:51 pm

I strongly encourage anyone to contact their congressman/woman about the fight for net neutrality and the fight for a free internet. This is serious and must be stopped. This reddit thread provides insight into what they are trying to pull and provides some great resources.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/6mtgtp/we_need_your_voice_as_we_continue_the_fight_for/

The general idea of what's happening as i understand is that cable companies are fighting for the ability to charge more for streaming than ever and charge extra for access to certain websites. This is not what the internet is about Sad

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684703/Heres-how-a-rollback-of-net-neutrality-could-affect-your-internet.html

"The Internet was built on the simple but powerful idea that while you, the customer, may need to pay a service provider for Internet access, that provider doesn’t get to shape what you access," according to Fortune. "… Anyone who wants to offer a new Internet service can reach everyone on the Internet, without paying extra fees to any provider. Users, in turn, can make their own choices about which services they want to use — including the next Twitter, Facebook or Snapchat that’s being created in someone’s basement right now."

Please i ask everyone to take a few moments and take it serious. Only took me a few minutes to leave a message here. https://www.battleforthenet.com/
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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:30 pm

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I strongly encourage anyone to contact their congressman/woman about the fight for net neutrality and the fight for a free internet. This is serious and must be stopped. This reddit thread provides insight into what they are trying to pull and provides some great resources.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/6mtgtp/we_need_your_voice_as_we_continue_the_fight_for/

The general idea of what's happening as i understand is that cable companies are fighting for the ability to charge more for streaming than ever and charge extra for access to certain websites. This is not what the internet is about Sad

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684703/Heres-how-a-rollback-of-net-neutrality-could-affect-your-internet.html

"The Internet was built on the simple but powerful idea that while you, the customer, may need to pay a service provider for Internet access, that provider doesn’t get to shape what you access," according to Fortune. "… Anyone who wants to offer a new Internet service can reach everyone on the Internet, without paying extra fees to any provider. Users, in turn, can make their own choices about which services they want to use — including the next Twitter, Facebook or Snapchat that’s being created in someone’s basement right now."

Please i ask everyone to take a few moments and take it serious. Only took me a few minutes to leave a message here. https://www.battleforthenet.com/


Net Neutrality also calls for the government basically taking over/nationalizing the internet. And if the government can't run the health care industry, then what makes people think that they can run the internet? I agree their needs to be reforms to protect the little guy, but this is not it.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/phil-kerpen/obamas-fccs-internet-takeover-would-reduce-internet-public-utility

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:21 pm


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:18 pm


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:26 pm

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A Marnie dog turned therapy dog that served 3 tours in Afghanistan got a fond farewell by hundreds of people before being put down via terminal bone cancer.

That one hit me hard and I know it did you as well. Especially the soldier crying on their last ride.

It did. I still see Sadie in my mind whenever I walk into the living room or when I walk into the backyard on nice days, like the ones we're having recently. The fact that the 10 anniversary of the death of my first dog is coming up soon, early Sept, doesn't make things easier.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:21 pm

Damn boneitis. Should have gotten it cured instead of working. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:31 pm


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:19 pm

It looks like North Korea won't be saved by China if war breaks out. Kim Jong Un really pissed off China worse then we thought. It really is North Korea against the world.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:39 pm

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It looks like North Korea won't be saved by China if war breaks out. Kim Jong Un really pissed off China worse then we thought. It really is North Korea against the world.
Hopefully he won't be crazy enough to try and do something. I don't think he's suicidal but you never know.
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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:23 am

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It looks like North Korea won't be saved by China if war breaks out. Kim Jong Un really pissed off China worse then we thought. It really is North Korea against the world.
Hopefully he won't be crazy enough to try and do something. I don't think he's suicidal but you never know.

Kim Jong Un is far more dangerous then any other dictator we've ever faced. Read this article and you're see what I'm talking about.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:03 pm

what i've heard elsewhere is that the South Koreans themselves aren't too worried about North Korea's saber-rattling and it's just business as usual for them. while North Korean ICBMs are EXTREMELY worrying (it was bad enough for me when there were fears they could just hit Hawaii since my sister and her husband live in Honolulu, and if any city in Hawaii were to be hit, that'd be the one), i think South Korea has it right here: North Korea is a threat and needs to be dealt with, but i think Western and Western-aligned defenses would probably be able to stop an attempted strike (it'd probably be the only good thing the trump regime would ever do) since defense developments haven't stopped since the Cold War and top officials probably foresaw this possibility a long time ago and have almost certainly been working towards stopping it if it ever happened--remember, these are the guys who have zombie apocalypse on their list of things-we-are-prepared-for. it is literally their job to do this kind of thing.

realistically, probably all that would come from Kim deciding to outright attack the West rather than just harass South Korea would be that they lose their missiles and are then invaded. actually trying to attack one of the most powerful countries on the world is completely different from just saying you'll do it for seventy years and never following through on those threats. and if they did actually hit American soil, let alone a major city, the response from the rest of the world would probably turn the Korean Peninsula into the Korean Island.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:37 pm

With everything thats going on in the news, I feel people are being more and more pressured these days to be political. I even saw a few posts saying that you are 'privileged' if you say you dont want to be political or take a side publicly or something.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:24 pm

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With everything thats going on in the news, I feel people are being more and more pressured these days to be political. I even saw a few posts saying that you are 'privileged' if you say you dont want to be political or take a side publicly or something.

I know it's awful. I usually don't talk about my views on Twitter or here, but sometimes on Twitter things can be so bad I have to.
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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:32 pm

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With everything thats going on in the news, I feel people are being more and more pressured these days to be political. I even saw a few posts saying that you are 'privileged' if you say you dont want to be political or take a side publicly or something.

It's true. Everyone is being pushed into taking a side (myself included) and it's getting on my nerves. I've always considered myself pretty centered when it comes to my political views. I lean right in some ways, left in others, but it's hard to be centered these days. Seems as though if one of your opinions happens to lean one way, you're automatically associated with the worst aspects of that particular side.

Without getting into specifics, I do kind of feel like media is trying to push me to one side, and I end up drifting towards the opposite side as a result.


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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:29 pm

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With everything thats going on in the news, I feel people are being more and more pressured these days to be political. I even saw a few posts saying that you are 'privileged' if you say you dont want to be political or take a side publicly or something.

It's true. Everyone is being pushed into taking a side (myself included) and it's getting on my nerves. I've always considered myself pretty centered when it comes to my political views. I lean right in some ways, left in others, but it's hard to be centered these days. Seems as though if one of your opinions happens to lean one way, you're automatically associated with the worst aspects of that particular side.

Without getting into specifics, I do kind of feel like media is trying to push me to one side, and I end up drifting towards the opposite side as a result.


Im seeing a lot more advocacy for violence against the far right.

(Im all for punching nazis btw)

The problem here goes when people try to say in this order:

Nazis deserve to be punched (most people agree with this as do I)
Alt Right are nazis (wait... kind of some parts of alt right/kek are really bad)
If you dont speak out or stay silent you support it. (okay i get where you are coming from)
Centrism can't exist because there is only one 'side'. (Wait what?)
Be on the 'right side'-(is that a threat?)
Anyone not on the right side is a nazi
therefore you can be punched.

Thats what I'm saying here is where its going.

But yeah my opinion TL:DR is Nazis are bad. KKK are terrible. Racism is bad. Confederates are losers.

But yeah the problem here comes when people try to say "all -this group I dont like- are nazis"

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:46 pm

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Im seeing a lot more advocacy for violence against the far right.

(Im all for punching nazis btw)

The problem here goes when people try to say in this order:

Nazis deserve to be punched (most people agree with this as do I)
Alt Right are nazis (wait... kind of some parts of alt right/kek are really bad)
If you dont speak out or stay silent you support it. (okay i get where you are coming from)
Centrism can't exist because there is only one 'side'. (Wait what?)
Be on the 'right side'-(is that a threat?)
Anyone not on the right side is a nazi
therefore you can be punched.

Thats what I'm saying here is where its going.

But yeah my opinion TL:DR is Nazis are bad. KKK are terrible. Racism is bad. Confederates are losers.

But yeah the problem here comes when people try to say "all -this group I dont like- are nazis"

It's become an epidemic, and Trump's comments regarding Charlottesville certainly didn't help matters.

Without context, I really don't have an issue with what he said. It's when you apply context that it really starts to look bad. The guy is usually all fire and pitchforks when it comes to calling out terrorists and extremists, yet when it comes from a sect of his own constituency, he all of the sudden takes a measured approach and doesn't condemn anybody specifically.

If you're going to be a fiery windbag, at least show some some consistency ffs.

The fact that half of US voters voted for a guy that is seemingly going out of his way to keep the support of extremist right wing bigots certainly doesn't look good if you're on the other side, even if most of the people that did vote for him agree that he not openly condemning them was a massive misfire.

Guilt by association.

And of course this type of sh*t is just going to radicalize people even more, which in turn leads to more generalizations like this, which in turn leads to more radicalization.

It's a fucking mess.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:32 pm

Even though I'm pretty conservative, I myself have some semi-center-left economic policies via using anti-trust laws to break up Google, the Wall Street banks, stuff like that. In my high days, I used to debate my friends who were centerist/slightly center-left but we were civil about it and we never killed each other. We were thoughtful, fair-minded, and respectable. And we still can be

Now for too many people, it's turned into Jerry Springer/WWE/Idiocracy/Gladiator/soft civil war.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:47 am

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Even though I'm pretty conservative, I myself have some semi-center-left economic policies via using anti-trust laws to break up Google, the Wall Street banks, stuff like that. In my high days, I used to debate my friends who were centerist/slightly center-left but we were civil about it and we never killed each other. We were thoughtful, fair-minded, and respectable. And we still can be

Now for too many people, it's turned into Jerry Springer/WWE/Idiocracy/Gladiator/soft civil war.

Let me ask you something since you're older and have more experience in life than me.

I am 23

Is it normal for some weeks for me to feel like a republican, some weeks to be a Democrat and then have weeks to feel like "screw it I dislike them all!". Well technically I dislike most politicians all the time Razz

It just feels like I can't decide who I am. Some people have told me being center and independent is weak because you can never take a stance but I don't think so. Because often I side and take a clear stance with the repubs or the dems depending on the issue.

I think republicans, democrats and libertarians all have good ideas and need each other, without realizing they need each other lol. Because at the end of the day most likely all of us all want what's best for America. Mostly all of us.

I just feel so ashamed that people my age have resorted to extreme violence to "talk" out their issues or feelings.

Maybe I'm just going to be hardcore independent all my life? You have a take on this?
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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:31 am

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Even though I'm pretty conservative, I myself have some semi-center-left economic policies via using anti-trust laws to break up Google, the Wall Street banks, stuff like that. In my high days, I used to debate my friends who were centerist/slightly center-left but we were civil about it and we never killed each other. We were thoughtful, fair-minded, and respectable. And we still can be

Now for too many people, it's turned into Jerry Springer/WWE/Idiocracy/Gladiator/soft civil war.

Let me ask you something since you're older and have more experience in life than me.

I am 23

Is it normal for some weeks for me to feel like a republican, some weeks to be a Democrat and then have weeks to feel like "screw it I dislike them all!". Well technically I dislike most politicians all the time Razz

It just feels like I can't decide who I am. Some people have told me being center and independent is weak because you can never take a stance but I don't think so. Because often I side and take a clear stance with the repubs or the dems depending on the issue.

I think republicans, democrats and libertarians all have good ideas and need each other, without realizing they need each other lol. Because at the end of the day most likely all of us all want what's best for America. Mostly all of us.

I just feel so ashamed that people my age have resorted to extreme violence to "talk" out their issues or feelings.

Maybe I'm just going to be hardcore independent all my life? You have a take on this?

You didn't ask me, but I'll give my thoughts anyways Razz

I think it's perfectly normal to hold different viewpoints and not associate with one particular side all the time. I'm the same way.

As far as being "centered = weak" is concerned, that couldn't be further from the truth. It means you're an independent thinker, that you don't follow the hoard mentality, and that you're more likely to see both sides of an argument. If there is to be a prosperous future, supposedly "weak" people like us will be at the forefront.

Now for the part that wouldn't go over well in mainstream media. The left is instigating most of the political turmoil as of late with their pigeonholing and generalizing of anyone that holds even somewhat conservative values imo. Some racist nutjob from the alt-right runs his car into a bunch of protesters, and somehow every person that leans somewhat right in any of their beliefs is guilty by association. It's been bad for a while, but this Charlottesville situation has brought the situation to a fever pitch. To the point where people on the left are actually starting to say "There is only one side".

What the f*ck kind of bullshit rhetoric is that?

What makes it worse is that the left refuses to acknowledge any responsibility on their part. Antifa's antics are swept under the rug. BLM's thuggish behavior as of late is swept under the rug. While most politically centered and somewhat right leaning people (though not all) are willing to acknowledge that the behavior of white nationalists is fucked, as well as condemn modern Nazism and white supremacy, those on the left seem completely unwilling to even acknowledge any wrongdoing from their most extreme sects.

While the last couple of paragraphs might make it seem like I'm 100% right wing conservative, I assure you that's not the case. I believe in LGBTQ rights. I believe in gun control. I believe universal healthcare is a right. I also believe that tightening borders and protecting jobs for citizens is important. I believe in lower taxes. I believe in small government. I believe in national security.

tl;dr: I tend to be somewhat of a centered when it comes to my political views, but the generalizations being thrown around by the left in wake of Trump and the Charlottestown tragedy is really starting to irk me.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:20 pm

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@Troyal1 wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
Even though I'm pretty conservative, I myself have some semi-center-left economic policies via using anti-trust laws to break up Google, the Wall Street banks, stuff like that. In my high days, I used to debate my friends who were centerist/slightly center-left but we were civil about it and we never killed each other. We were thoughtful, fair-minded, and respectable. And we still can be

Now for too many people, it's turned into Jerry Springer/WWE/Idiocracy/Gladiator/soft civil war.

Let me ask you something since you're older and have more experience in life than me.

I am 23

Is it normal for some weeks for me to feel like a republican, some weeks to be a Democrat and then have weeks to feel like "screw it I dislike them all!". Well technically I dislike most politicians all the time Razz

It just feels like I can't decide who I am. Some people have told me being center and independent is weak because you can never take a stance but I don't think so. Because often I side and take a clear stance with the repubs or the dems depending on the issue.

I think republicans, democrats and libertarians all have good ideas and need each other, without realizing they need each other lol. Because at the end of the day most likely all of us all want what's best for America. Mostly all of us.

I just feel so ashamed that people my age have resorted to extreme violence to "talk" out their issues or feelings.

Maybe I'm just going to be hardcore independent all my life? You have a take on this?

You didn't ask me, but I'll give my thoughts anyways Razz

I think it's perfectly normal to hold different viewpoints and not associate with one particular side all the time. I'm the same way.

As far as being "centered = weak" is concerned, that couldn't be further from the truth. It means you're an independent thinker, that you don't follow the hoard mentality, and that you're more likely to see both sides of an argument. If there is to be a prosperous future, supposedly "weak" people like us will be at the forefront.

Now for the part that wouldn't go over well in mainstream media. The left is instigating most of the political turmoil as of late with their pigeonholing and generalizing of anyone that holds even somewhat conservative values imo. Some racist nutjob from the alt-right runs his car into a bunch of protesters, and somehow every person that leans somewhat right in any of their beliefs is guilty by association. It's been bad for a while, but this Charlottesville situation has brought the situation to a fever pitch. To the point where people on the left are actually starting to say "There is only one side".

What the f*ck kind of bullshit rhetoric is that?

What makes it worse is that the left refuses to acknowledge any responsibility on their part. Antifa's antics are swept under the rug. BLM's thuggish behavior as of late is swept under the rug. While most politically centered and somewhat right leaning people (though not all) are willing to acknowledge that the behavior of white nationalists is fucked, as well as condemn modern Nazism and white supremacy, those on the left seem completely unwilling to even acknowledge any wrongdoing from their most extreme sects.

While the last couple of paragraphs might make it seem like I'm 100% right wing conservative, I assure you that's not the case. I believe in LGBTQ rights. I believe in gun control. I believe universal healthcare is a right. I also believe that tightening borders and protecting jobs for citizens is important. I believe in lower taxes. I believe  in small government. I believe in national security.

tl;dr: I tend to be somewhat of a centered when it comes to my political views, but the generalizations being thrown around by the left in wake of Trump and the Charlottestown tragedy is really starting to irk me.

I think the left personally is under a delusion that Mike Pence will be thrown out too if Trump is impeached and then Hilary Clinton will somehow take over as president.

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PostSubject: Re: News thread.   Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:21 pm

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Even though I'm pretty conservative, I myself have some semi-center-left economic policies via using anti-trust laws to break up Google, the Wall Street banks, stuff like that. In my high days, I used to debate my friends who were centerist/slightly center-left but we were civil about it and we never killed each other. We were thoughtful, fair-minded, and respectable. And we still can be

Now for too many people, it's turned into Jerry Springer/WWE/Idiocracy/Gladiator/soft civil war.

Let me ask you something since you're older and have more experience in life than me.

I am 23

Is it normal for some weeks for me to feel like a republican, some weeks to be a Democrat and then have weeks to feel like "screw it I dislike them all!". Well technically I dislike most politicians all the time Razz

It just feels like I can't decide who I am. Some people have told me being center and independent is weak because you can never take a stance but I don't think so. Because often I side and take a clear stance with the repubs or the dems depending on the issue.

I think republicans, democrats and libertarians all have good ideas and need each other, without realizing they need each other lol. Because at the end of the day most likely all of us all want what's best for America. Mostly all of us.

I just feel so ashamed that people my age have resorted to extreme violence to "talk" out their issues or feelings.

Maybe I'm just going to be hardcore independent all my life? You have a take on this?

Most people in their countries hate their politicians. The only exception is Stalinist North Korea, where the population is so thoroughly brainwashed but that's the anomaly.

And for being weak by being a centrist/independent, there is some truth to that since some people can have some positions the contradict each other, but you can be a smart independent...if you know about the issues enough and carefully listen to both sides, that they don't constantly contradict with other viewpoints you hold.

Here's what I think of the 3 sides.

Libertarians: They want maximum freedom on everything. The problem is the the more freedom a country has, the more people are likely to abuse it and unwittingly wind up going into a dictatorship. Not only that, but they are kind of 'useful idiots' to Democrats like how Lenin saw many on the American left as tools for his popularity. Here's what I mean: You know how many Democrats are for more 'social freedoms' yet are for the expansion of government? Are they really for 'social freedom' or are they just using it to keep the population so tamed that they won't put up resistance. I've been saying that we're in a Brave New World/Idiocracy mix right now.

As for republicans. As somebody who's pretty conservative (80% Conservative and 20% center-left/populist), I don't know what they stand for. They defend capitalism, but they do so much so that they have left behind social issues (mostly) behind.

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I think it's perfectly normal to hold different viewpoints and not associate with one particular side all the time. I'm the same way.

As far as being "centered = weak" is concerned, that couldn't be further from the truth. It means you're an independent thinker, that you don't follow the hoard mentality, and that you're more likely to see both sides of an argument. If there is to be a prosperous future, supposedly "weak" people like us will be at the forefront.

Now for the part that wouldn't go over well in mainstream media. The left is instigating most of the political turmoil as of late with their pigeonholing and generalizing of anyone that holds even somewhat conservative values imo. Some racist nutjob from the alt-right runs his car into a bunch of protesters, and somehow every person that leans somewhat right in any of their beliefs is guilty by association. It's been bad for a while, but this Charlottesville situation has brought the situation to a fever pitch. To the point where people on the left are actually starting to say "There is only one side".

What the f*ck kind of bullshit rhetoric is that?

What makes it worse is that the left refuses to acknowledge any responsibility on their part. Antifa's antics are swept under the rug. BLM's thuggish behavior as of late is swept under the rug. While most politically centered and somewhat right leaning people (though not all) are willing to acknowledge that the behavior of white nationalists is fucked, as well as condemn modern Nazism and white supremacy, those on the left seem completely unwilling to even acknowledge any wrongdoing from their most extreme sects.

tl;dr: I tend to be somewhat of a centered when it comes to my political views, but the generalizations being thrown around by the left in wake of Trump and the Charlottestown tragedy is really starting to irk me.

^ All of this.

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I think the left personally is under a delusion that Mike Pence will be thrown out too if Trump is impeached and then Hilary Clinton will somehow take over as president.

Some are, but many of them-mainly the Obama/Sanders millennials-are not. Even among many in the establishment-Chuck Schumer-have said that she only has herself to blame for her defeat. Besides, Hillary's loss has made her too damaged goods to ever run for president ever again. And the 'Russia thing' is stupid, since Trump wouldn't have attacked Syria and sent a Carrier group to North Korea if he was a puppet. Most of that is just overblown whining.

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