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PostSubject: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:26 pm

In the modern era, the leaks a movie studio has, the more troubled it's productions. Fant4stic, GB 2016 via Stantz1984, and now the DCMU. With Reddit and 4Chan being the main places where leaks get, well leaked. And more often then not, these leaks are either totally right or mostly right. The title of this topic says it all.If there was a major leak about JW2/JP5 on Reddit about how many of the people were not happy about the movie, would you be worried? Also, how would it affect how much the movie would make?

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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:34 am

In that event, I think the (mostly) optimistic tone most people had for the film would plummet catastrophically. I imagine that if we were as privy to backstage trouble as we were in 2000-2001 when JP3 was basically filming without a script and a very disgruntled Sam Neil, we'd probably see it as a pre-ordained failure rather than something that disappointed upon seeing it and not knowing as much as a modern internet user does.

Fortunately, that's not the impression I'm getting, just like the actual production of the previous film things seem to be going pretty well. Even something as simple as Bryce Dallas Howard tweeting an image of scaffolding for the backstage of the set and watching all the tongue-in-cheek speculation unfold is enough to foster a good relationship between the film makers and the online community. Something that those productions you listed didn't (or rather don't) not have.

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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:18 am

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
In that event, I think the (mostly) optimistic tone most people had for the film would plummet catastrophically. I imagine that if we were as privy to backstage trouble as we were in 2000-2001 when JP3 was basically filming without a script and a very disgruntled Sam Neil, we'd probably see it as a pre-ordained failure rather than something that disappointed upon seeing it and not knowing as much as a modern internet user does.

I've been thinking the same thing about JP3 myself. We all heard the rumors but I can't help but wonder if there was more backstage drama/unhappiness to that movie then what Universal would want us to believe there was, simply for the sake of not admitting that JP3 was more of a failure then what it already does.

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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:40 pm

I would be devastated. I'm actually one of the few who ended up loving JP3 anyway. And that's because I think it was still an incredible action film(one of my favorites to date). But if it had actually had its act together the movie could have been so much more than a "run from Dino" movie.

So yes I'd be extremely worried. I want JW2 to be something that is truly special for the series. And for that to happen it needs both feet firmly planted on the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Troubled production doesn't automatically mean end times. Jaws was complete disaster when being filmed from nearly every perspective, technical to location to actors to producers. Crew of Star Wars thought they were doing a children's film and the first cut was so a joke. Eyes Wide Shut was horrifying experience on the set and got delayed forever due to Kubrick's obsessions. Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski almost murdered each other on sets of their films. But all turned out amazing. Yes they were before the age of hyperbole modern media but I don't think the leaks are the tool of destruction. Maybe advocate, but not the cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:19 pm

@Mistral wrote:
Troubled production doesn't automatically mean end times. Jaws was complete disaster when being filmed from nearly every perspective, technical to location to actors to producers. Crew of Star Wars thought they were doing a children's film and the first cut was so a joke. Eyes Wide Shut was horrifying experience on the set and got delayed forever due to Kubrick's obsessions. Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski almost murdered each other on sets of their films. But all turned out amazing. Yes they were before the age of hyperbole modern media but I don't think the leaks are the tool of destruction. Maybe advocate, but not the cause.

I do echo this sentiment, a troubled production does not automatically result in a crap or mediocre film, and just to add a few more titles to the ones you listed: Apocalypse Now and Cleopatra, heck even Waterworld (a film not everyone likes) has it's fun elements despite not being the best or most exciting adventure film. Unfortunately, it's become a trend lately that troubled productions indicate drama behind the scenes resulting in the filmmaking being compromised.

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PostSubject: Re: Would a leak about onscreen and offscreen drama during the making of JW2/JP5 and JW3/JP6 worry you?   Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:40 pm

@Mistral wrote:
Troubled production doesn't automatically mean end times. Jaws was complete disaster when being filmed from nearly every perspective, technical to location to actors to producers. Crew of Star Wars thought they were doing a children's film and the first cut was so a joke. Eyes Wide Shut was horrifying experience on the set and got delayed forever due to Kubrick's obsessions. Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski almost murdered each other on sets of their films. But all turned out amazing. Yes they were before the age of hyperbole modern media but I don't think the leaks are the tool of destruction.

That may be true, but as said, this was before the internet. Not only that, but movie companies had more control/influence in past since today's tech didn't exist back then. I guarantee you that if those movies, except maybe Star Wars, were made now and had the same troubled productions. Word of mouth spreads very fast. I honestly think that you're downplaying how much power that a disgruntled employee of a troubled movie/movie production behind a computer that has the internet and hides behind a Web name really has. The production staff and everybody else who's not acting in movies have far more power now then they ever had.

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